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01-14-2010, 02:39 PM #21
In my recent study I concluded that pirated apps have cost Apple and the devs somewhere in the region of 999 billion dollars....see how easy that was?
01-14-2010, 02:48 PM #22
If iTunes prevents cracked apps from being updated, then that is a slight deterrent. But there will always be a way around any system; some for good purposes (like Cydia and Rock apps).
01-14-2010, 02:48 PM #23
Let's say Apple does crackdown on pirated apps, who's to say that they won't do something to jailbreakers too? Afterall, they believe jailbreaking to be illegal.
Cracked apps aren't going anywhere unfortunately. They will always be around in some form even if Cydia manages a way to implement blocking of bad sources.
I would rather there be a few bad users than Apple poking around my phone.
01-14-2010, 03:07 PM #24
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01-14-2010, 03:43 PM #25
Besides, you can't even update the software when its pirated. Is your time that worthless that your willing to. waste time download different versions of the same software over and over again?
01-14-2010, 03:46 PM #26
Well done Messany. I think your title pretty much presumes all jailbreakers use cracked apps. First class journalismTo live, you have to lie
01-14-2010, 03:56 PM #27
Any intelligent person wouldn't assume that in any kind of average circumstance you could support yourself by developing apps for the iPhone. If you wanted to make ends meet with a job in programming then there's definitely much more viable, and much less risky, areas to employ yourself. This isn't saying that it can't be done, the odds are just overwhelmingly against you to break the bank with an iPhone app, so anyone who is down on their luck purely because they invested all their time and energy into developing iPhone apps has no one to blame but themselves.
01-14-2010, 04:05 PM #28
I guess I'm a hypocrite. I don't buy my music, but I think it's wrong to pirate apps. Guess deep down I just figure app devs are just every day people for the most part, and music artists make a lot more than app developers. Not to mention the fact that if I bought all my music, I wouldn't have 1/4 of the songs on my iPod and I'd still be broke. I've spent a good amount on apps, but I don't download 10-15 apps at a time.
Oh, and another reason I don't buy my music is because iTunes is the only place I can get it from. Can't make MP3 CDs or free ringtones with songs bought through iTunes.
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01-14-2010, 04:23 PM #29
its been found piracy promotes sales...Wanna-be coder/iphone user since '08
01-14-2010, 04:29 PM #30
01-14-2010, 04:34 PM #31
Its a part of life, theres always people who do some "questionable" stuff with their devices, if the dev's are smart as they are suppose to be they would have seen this problem, its a fact of life, deal with it
01-14-2010, 04:35 PM #32
I feel for you but then again I can't talk!!
01-14-2010, 04:53 PM #33
01-14-2010, 04:53 PM #34
I think Cydia should block these repos. By not doing so it has made it harder and harder for those of us who aren't thieves to enjoy something we bought. 'The man' isn't the problem here, it's people that use a system like Cydia to steal without Cydia being made for that purpose. Jay should simply block those repos as soon as they are found to be hosting stolen apps. That's the way to stop it.
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01-14-2010, 05:20 PM #35
At the person who said that a programmer should expect to make a living off of writing programs for iphone - how is the fact that (apparently) 65-70 percent of the iphone-using population are douchebags make his choice of work stupid? It's not his fault that apple hasnt even attempted to address the problem. He's working, pretty hard I'd add, to generate an honest day's work and at no point in time will I fault a group of people for something that really isn't their fault?
While I can appreciate your point, I disagree because said artist should not be held accountable for the shady practices of others.
Piracy does not boost sales, only discourages innovation. No one wants to make a quality product if they believe they won't get properly paid for it. Would you work at your job for free?
01-14-2010, 05:27 PM #36
Apple doesn't make that much off their cut in selling apps, it's the developers I care about. I doubt that sales are affected much by piracy though, most people who pirate apps would never buy them anyway.
01-14-2010, 05:35 PM #37
I am not saying its right but I seriously doubt that piracy will ever stop.If you wanna thank me hit "Thanks" in the lower left of my post. If you would like to follow me on twitter click here
01-14-2010, 05:36 PM #38
Why does piracy exist in the first place?Asking for help is different from being stupid. Fanboys can rot in @#$%!
01-14-2010, 05:49 PM #39
Well, with every software update comes new protection. It always gets cracked. Just like every version of windows, osx for pc, etc... it's never ending, so is the cat and mouse games apple and crackers play.
I think that is why they don't care a whole lot about it. Im sure they have a percent where they will be like, OK, we have to step in and stop this. Maybe it's 2% and iphoneos 4.0 will be "uncrackable" or harder then before, taking more then a couple weeks.
The 2.0 unlock didnt come until new years of that year. 3.0 came in about 3-4 months. From Geohots forum it sounds like they put a lot of effort into stopping the unlocking process. We will know pretty soon if they are making it more secure, sure they are. I'm sure it will get hacked again.
Point is, there really is no stopping it, at least not in the near future.
01-14-2010, 05:56 PM #40
but everybody does it! LOL there is no way to stop pirating, see how well its doing for movies and music. i do it too, havent bought a cd in 10 years, i get studio copy dvd's before they even come out in theaters, maybe when you open the app store/cydia/rock there should be a video that plays. you wouldnt steal this crappy app from walmart would you? downloading pirated apps is illegal, you could go to prison because of this, yet you just supported terrorism and drug cartels. everyone has pirated something some way or another, probably mostly music how many of you have paid for every single song that you have on your ipod???Originally Posted by ??????