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    Sir,

    Not that what you're saying is untrue, it well might be - but don't you think you come across a tad arrogant?

    I think personally that DJ's such as the winners of the DMC comp are equally, if not more talented than people in heavy metal bands (bar Maynard from tool) . Remember, the talent lies in the person, no matter what Genre, you cant compare 1:1 DJ'ing with Playing Guitar, they both have the ability to be taken to a level almost impossible to achieve by your average punter.

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    I bet anything since the new pwnage is out he's making more updates to his application so guess window users are screwed for another week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phirex View Post
    Sir,

    Not that what you're saying is untrue, it well might be - but don't you think you come across a tad arrogant?

    I think personally that DJ's such as the winners of the DMC comp are equally, if not more talented than people in heavy metal bands (bar Maynard from tool) . Remember, the talent lies in the person, no matter what Genre, you cant compare 1:1 DJ'ing with Playing Guitar, they both have the ability to be taken to a level almost impossible to achieve by your average punter.
    There is no way in hell you can say someone who only has to scratch a table and maybe move around a few tracks is anywhere near as talented as someone who is singing or playing the guitar. Sorry I just don't see it nor agree with it.

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    I can come off like my poop don't stink cause I lived a hard life and everything I gained is out of hard work. When I was told as a pot head I won't get nowhere let's see I'm pretty much set for life. And still a pot smoking fiend. But I always know that there someone better than me and there is. I just know I play bass and drums and I'll tell you its harder to play them then put a few records on a turn table and have a beat machine. You try to play a 45 minute set on the drums. I seen dj they do more dancing and hopping around. I seen many DJs even some off the best at the time like Paul Oakenfold and even got to see dj nikki and that girl has a rack. But I personally don't like techno and any other genre of that type but I'll still listen to the stuff at a club and if a mofo can play I give them credit cause hey I can play drums and the bass but I haven't tried to spin something. But even my buddy rags on me cause I tell me the same thing he loves techno. And he's no dj but he spins some stuff but hey his still not metal to me.
    I said I wouldnt talk more about this so put a end to it.

    remember this metal music can be compared to let's say rap or techno. Rappers only have to sing techno spin a few records. Metal you need a drummer, bassist, lead and/or rythmn guitars and maybe a singer. On top of that singing and playing a guitar is even harder. I won't ever diss jazz, punk, blues,metal or any other genre that uses actual instruments. Only talent rappers have is rapping about the same stuff no rappers is different for one to the other.

    Tool sucks there not metal there mainstream alternative

    one more thing comps don't count cause if you want to involve that then still a guitarist would smoke any dj in a competition. A beatbox person has more talent then a dj listen to the song "if your mother only knew". I can remember the beat boxer but he whooped @$$.
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    this thread has got way of course..... no wonder theres about 10 other threads about pwntool, you guys have recked this thread.... tut tut


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    I usually don't post but I just couldn't take another one of your ignorant statements. Your comparing two TOTALLY different art forms. A good dj is every bit as talented as a traditional musician. Look up dj Q-bert, If you can tell me what he does isn't skilled musicianship, I don't know what is. And when he speaks of the DMC comp their more using the tables as an instrument than just mixing. Anyway just do your research next time.

    P.S. The beatboxers name is Rahzel and he does kick *****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yup yup View Post
    I usually don't post but I just couldn't take another one of your ignorant statements. Your comparing two TOTALLY different art forms. A good dj is every bit as talented as a traditional musician. Look up dj Q-bert, If you can tell me what he does isn't skilled musicianship, I don't know what is. And when he speaks of the DMC comp their more using the tables as an instrument than just mixing. Anyway just do your research next time.

    P.S. The beatboxers name is Rahzel and he does kick *****.
    I still disagree with you. Research has been done. I have done many live recordings and spent a little time in the studio. I just don't see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haibane View Post
    I still disagree with you. Research has been done. I have done many live recordings and spent a little time in the studio. I just don't see it.
    Research has been done? lol Could you point me to that?

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    it says on broom anyone can beta test... but whatever that means. im kinda over the hype now :-/ its been so long, and no updates on its condtion. i am just waiting now :-/

    and you guys are lame. with your fighting. its so 5 years ago, and it shows how unprofessional you both are. sorry get over yourselfs.

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    Don't rely on broom if you look at the offical site Cmw tells you about that. Just pay attention to www.winpnw.com.

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    win pwn hasnt changed in 3 days...... i check it all day

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    Yea i know I go there everyday myself and I see nothin updated since the 12th. I need the source code like u need the program.

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    lol u guys still talking about/ dj's and house music/ heavy metal etc.... thats cool ...well in my opinion DJ'ing has evolved a lot for example
    on our last show on friday we had-
    korg keybord/drum machine/bongo drums /sax/and a singer on some tracks who pereformed live / so that being said dj's dont just spin records they do a lot more...
    im not taking anything from a drummer /singer/ guitarist or etc. i respect every musician , every style metal/rock/hip hop etc. they r all awsome .. i just love music any kind of music well except counry lol.....

    but anyway whats up with winpwn ???????
    god.... i pwned my iphone on my mac air and its pretty cool love it... running the new beta its ok not much in it ... i think im going back to 1.1.4
    so you r not missing much as of yet..just the custom boot logos....


    linux4me it looks like we started an argument between users about musicians and djs in the wrong forum lol ..........
    also what u gonna do with the source code ???? improve it maybe in your own way ???
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    2.0 beta 8 5a345 ATT LOCKED

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    Yea your right about that I tried to end it and its starts all over again.
    I like all music myself too not to fond of country either and rap.
    but anyways back to the point yes I want to see if I can get to improve. I know peoples biggest problem right now is you still need to put your application back on after the firmware update wit pwnage. Dev team hasn't release it for there version I know cmw will release the code for his version. So I'll start there. And there has to be a way since apple will soon have the app store. You know they'll release more firmware updates down the line so they will have to have a cure for that. Cause I can't see people who go the honest route dl there apps every few months. Cause they have to update there firmware then redownload there app. But then again I think you can save them to iTunes not to sure. Also have a few surpises up my selves for people let us. I need really look at the source code find out a few key detail. Mainly for windows user mac will be a little easier once I figure out some of the key parts

    right now I'm making my own version of idols cause the one that's out is in bad shape his algorithm is all messed up you can max out your money in one day by exiting out of the program then going back into it plus if u even play the honest way you can max out you Monet pretty quick. I can't let dope wars name get trashed. I ask him nicely to hand me the code for that just to improve the algorithms and he can take the credit I don't care about that I want people to have fun with the game so I'm sorta glad winpwn not out yet. Since I have my c version of dopewars I'm right now portin it to obj-c .
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    YES ITS OUT !!!!!!
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    problem is its only beta. Not the full application. So if your not a pro or know what u are doin don't dl it.

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    Exclamation need Help

    i have used this on the 2.0 software but i cant get the app store or i tunes to show. plz help

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    Smile 1.0.2 to 1.1.4: is the PwnageTool my HolyGrail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Argo_Rei View Post
    try doing a clean restore first, then pwning

    almost forgot...fantastic work guys!!!

    *bows down before the dev team*
    My iPhone is 1.0.2 Unlocked and Jailbroken.
    I assume I have to clean restore to use the PwnageTool. However I'd like to be sure I'd be doing it correctly. I've looked around the Guides on this site and have not been able to find one that specifies 1.0.2 clean restore.

    The end result I'd like is to upgrade from 1.0.2 (jailbroken and unlocked) to a clean, jailbroken, unlocked 1.1.4.

    Can anyone point me in the right direction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iJuice View Post
    My iPhone is 1.0.2 Unlocked and Jailbroken.
    I assume I have to clean restore to use the PwnageTool. However I'd like to be sure I'd be doing it correctly. I've looked around the Guides on this site and have not been able to find one that specifies 1.0.2 clean restore.

    The end result I'd like is to upgrade from 1.0.2 (jailbroken and unlocked) to a clean, jailbroken, unlocked 1.1.4.

    Can anyone point me in the right direction?
    Are u goin to use the mac version of pwnage or winpwn? Need to know before I can answer you question. But really basically no matter what one you use just update your firmware to 1.1.4 no jailbreak nothin like that unless you are using another carrier but still you can run bootneuter and what ever to unlock the phone. Throw more info at me I can get u up and running

    Quote Originally Posted by cajun1689 View Post
    i have used this on the 2.0 software but i cant get the app store or i tunes to show. plz help
    You have go to the parental controls turn them all off then back on should work
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    mount disks01 failed. I keep getting this dooring the initial pwning proses. I get this and then it reboots like nothing even happened.

    Im on a mac using pwnagetool 1.1. any ideas?

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