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tl;dr - evasi0n7 successfully jailbreaks iOS 7 devices (untethered), installs a Chinese app store for Chinese users which has some piracy issues, evad3rs were paid to bundle that app (TaiG),
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    Default The iOS 7 Jailbreak Story
    tl;dr - evasi0n7 successfully jailbreaks iOS 7 devices (untethered), installs a Chinese app store for Chinese users which has some piracy issues, evad3rs were paid to bundle that app (TaiG), two separate teams were working on a jailbreak, and Mobile Substrate and jailbreak tweaks should be updated and working within a week or two, but devs are frustrated.

    Early on the Sunday before Christmas, an iOS 7 jailbreak was released, carrying the moniker evasi0n7.




    It was a sudden release - the evad3rs' (the team who release the jailbreak) last tweet had been 53 days previous, saying they were working on the iOS 7 jailbreak... and hoodies. We published an iOS 7 jailbreak tutorial, and the jailbreak community considered this Beyoncé-like surprise jailbreak a Christmas miracle.

    45 minutes later, however, a hint of intrigue appeared as @saurik tweeted a series of tweets explaining he'd had no knowledge of the impending release, nor early access to include an official build of Cydia in the jailbreak. He mentioned specifically there would be issues with Mobile Substrate - and indeed it seemed the release did not allow MS tweaks to work "out of the box."



    The evad3rs (comprised of @pimskeks, @planetbeing, and @pod2g) replied, mostly through @pod2g's Twitter account, saying they'd release a fix soon for the MS issues.



    Users began reporting the evasi0n jailbreak was bundling a different app than Cydia for users whose default computer language was set to Chinese - a Chinese app store called TaiG. @saurik and others found examples of piracy in the TaiG app.

    At the same time, rumors began to circulate the evad3rs had been paid to include this app for Chinese users.

    As the situation unfolded, a recorded phone message between Geohot (on Twitter lately as tomcr00se) and an unknown person apparently acting as an intermediary for a company in China was released, in which Geohot offered to sell an iOS 7 jailbreak, minus a critical piece which the other party could provide.

    The evad3rs responded with a letter to the community addressing the questions. The letter states yes, they were approached by a Chinese company to bundle an app with the jailbreak, only for Chinese users. They had agreed to do so, under the stipulation Cydia also be allowed to be installed, and TaiG be able to be removed.

    They assure users safety and security are top concerns, as always, in this jailbreak - and each member has taken numerous stands in the past in favor of high security, as well as against piracy. They specifically mention the high scrutiny security researchers focus on jailbreak software, and that the contract with TaiG has language forbidding piracy in the TaiG app. The letter goes so far as to state if TaiG cannot resolve the piracy, the evad3rs will remove TaiG from the jailbreak. Still, one has to imagine this piracy was present and easily recognizable in the app beforehand?

    The evad3rs go into detail of their acceptance of the offer, and mentioning it to saurik. They say saurik counter-offered (whom is not clear) and began work with a separate team to attempt a jailbreak release before evasi0n7.

    Saurik comments about this on Twitter, saying he agreed to work on a separate jailbreak with a goal of finding a jailbreak solution which didn't include a "piracy-laden" bundled app. He also expresses frustration at the rushed launch, and mentions he handed an iOS 7 compatible version of Mobile Substrate out September 30th.



    The evad3rs decided to push for first release, knowing Cydia, MS, and various tweaks would be updated soon after.

    Creating a jailbreak is difficult, long work done by talented developers and security researchers. The professionals who do this are highly skilled and now extremely knowledgable with years of background in iOS. The issue of compensation is not frustrating - as one user on reddit mentioned, "I get paid to work, too." The bundling of a separate app for Chinese users with the ability to install Cydia alongside it doesn't even seem all that surprising; other package managers have been bundled in jailbreaks before, although the fragmentation of security patches should be stated as an issue.

    The general frustration is twofold:
    • A lack of information divulgence - TaiG is installed without the user being made aware, by default (only for users whose computer language is set to Chinese).
    • Developers of major tweaks and Cydia itself were not given advance access to the jailbreak, making for a problematic jailbreak release for general users.

    Both points will be moot in a week as developers struggle to quickly release updates and work on fixes for iOS 7 compatibility. Frustrations are high today as the team who created the jailbreak are running on little sleep in the past three days of release scramble, top tweak authors look for pre-Christmas time to fit in compatibility updates, and saurik rushes to put finishing touches on iOS versions of Substrate, Winterboard, Cydia, and other tweaks (which were being worked on, of course, but now must be done in a hurry).

    The story continues to unfold, and is interesting in it's public peek into the business side of the jailbreak world. The evad3rs should be congratulated for their work - it's a great tool which has taken an extreme amount of work. The lack of cooperation between the various parties who make a jailbreak fun for a user on release day is frustrating. Most users equate "jailbreak" not with the ability to gain write access to their phone's filesystem, but a certain suite of tweaks or apps they love.

    In other words - wait a few days on this one unless you're a power user.
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    It's funny to me that the real question that is ont the table was dodged in this article. If we have installed this Jailbreak in English, are we in imminent peril or is our data compromised, can be compromised in any way.

    A simple yes or no will suffice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LearningMan View Post
    It's funny to me that the real question that is ont the table was dodged in this article. If we have installed this Jailbreak in English, are we in imminent peril or is our data compromised, can be compromised in any way.

    A simple yes or no will suffice.
    From what I read on reddit.com/r/jailbreak, the short answer is, "Yes." It appears that even in the English version of the jailbreak the chinese company still installs some components, and those components are suspected of uploading users' private data to a site called iphonespirit.com.


    Supposedly the evad3rs had a deal with the Chinese company that they CANNOT install anything the promotes piracy, and piracy of some sort has already been detected...AND DAY 1 ISN'T EVEN OVER YET! It makes you wonder what else this shady Chinese company lied about.

    This whole jailbreak is srewed up. I'll be steering clear of this one until all this settles down...and it may even keep me from ever jailbreaking again.

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    LearningMan - all parties involved are saying your data is safe. An update will be out when we've discovered specifically if info is sent (which supposedly is only occurring on Chinese devices using TaiG) and what it is. The evad3rs are vehement about user data security and safety in this release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LearningMan View Post
    It's funny to me that the real question that is ont the table was dodged in this article. If we have installed this Jailbreak in English, are we in imminent peril or is our data compromised, can be compromised in any way.

    A simple yes or no will suffice.
    And BTW, stop trying to cover your *****. Modmyi f@#$@#$ed up. Trying to be first without verifying and before you scream at me, maybe you should look in the mirror. I have always looked here in confidence. NEVER AGAIN. NEVER.

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    I'm very appreciative of all involved in making jail breaking possible, past and present... It's a bummer that all parties necessary in the jailbreak world didn't communicate and correspond better... I feel bad for Saurik and all devs who have packages on cydia and are now feeling rushed... Saurik should've been let in on testing sooner than the general public... Anyways, I'm not putting anyone down, nor judging... I truly am grateful for everyone's knowledge and hard work in helping us MODOURi... Thanks Kyle for the breakdown of the situation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LearningMan View Post
    It's funny to me that the real question that is ont the table was dodged in this article. If we have installed this Jailbreak in English, are we in imminent peril or is our data compromised, can be compromised in any way.

    A simple yes or no will suffice.
    i believe not unless the chinese app is installed.


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    If You Dont See "evasi0n 7" Icon On iDevice, Then Search "evasi0n 7" In Spotlight You'll See It, Tap On It And Jailbreak Is Done!!

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    The easy answers-

    1) The notion that code is written into a jailbreak to allow the Chinese Government to spy is preposterous to begin with.

    2) Nevertheless, the Chinese do NOT care about your texts to your bf/gf, calls to mom and dad, or porn searches on Safari. You are nobody.

    2) If your phone DOES have confidential info on it- medical records, credit card numbers, social security numbers of clients, business docs or trade secrets, you should NOT be jailbreaking in the first place.

    Easy answers for lots of stupid questions about this overblown nonsense.

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    I'm an "Activator" and "MyWi"-like native iOS feature update away from being done with jailbreaks, anyway.

    This type of stuff takes the fun out of it.
    Reminding you all that YOU'RE YOUR

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    Kind of a stupid question, but if I were to jailbreak now, would I have to restore and jailbreak later again to get Substrate and whatnot working? And if I jailbreak today, would it be worth it? or would not any tweaks or extra apps not work through cydia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FURBY8704 View Post
    i believe not unless the chinese app is installed.
    What "chinese app?" As I interpret all this, the Cydia it installs IS the Chinese app. Is this incorrect?

    Quote Originally Posted by stulaw11 View Post
    The easy answers-

    1) The notion that code is written into a jailbreak to allow the Chinese Government to spy is preposterous to begin with.

    2) Nevertheless, the Chinese do NOT care about your texts to your bf/gf, calls to mom and dad, or porn searches on Safari. You are nobody.

    2) If your phone DOES have confidential info on it- medical records, credit card numbers, social security numbers of clients, business docs or trade secrets, you should NOT be jailbreaking in the first place.

    Easy answers for lots of stupid questions about this overblown nonsense.
    You, my friend, need a sign. ALL of our phones have confidential data on them, or at least it was. Get your head out of the sand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LearningMan View Post
    What "chinese app?" As I interpret all this, the Cydia it installs IS the Chinese app. Is this incorrect?
    This is not correct - if you're on a computer with Chinese as the default language it installs TaiG INSTEAD of Cydia, as well as allowing Cydia to be installed.
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    thanks for the article Kyle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LearningMan View Post
    And BTW, stop trying to cover your *****. Modmyi f@#$@#$ed up. Trying to be first without verifying and before you scream at me, maybe you should look in the mirror. I have always looked here in confidence. NEVER AGAIN. NEVER.
    Not sure what this is all about. We have continued to report on the jailbreak with accurate data instead of rumors, as always.
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    Thanks for the wrote up boss man.

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    Always a few in the crowd that like to throw stones. Like we had anything to do with the jailbreak. Just reporting the news.

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    I can't believe these devs are being ignorant. Why would u release this and not involve saurik? What's the point of jailbreaking the phone if cydia and it's tweaks etc... Do not work? Just stupid

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    Quote Originally Posted by LearningMan View Post
    You, my friend, need a sign. ALL of our phones have confidential data on them, or at least it was. Get your head out of the sand.
    Admin edit: no name calling please.
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    I've never liked it when people don't co-operate but with so many exceedingly intelligent people working on it, some with bigger egos than others and all with slightly different views, getting agreement all the time is impossible. As more people get involved the splits and rivalries become more public.

    Evad3rs have, as always, done a stunningly good job. Thank you.
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