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06-11-2013, 02:59 AM #41
06-11-2013, 05:25 AM #42
I think the big thing is that generally speaking, we expect MORE from Apple. iOS7 really feels like they're playing catch up. Whether it's by adding features that us jailbreakers have been using for sometime, or making the UI look "tiled" like android and windows phones. The only thing they showed that really made think "hey, that's pretty sweet" was AirDrop. And even then, it's not something I'm willing to give up my jb for.
Why they haven't added quick reply/compose to messages yet is truly insane. It's still the main reason I jailbreak. If iOS 7 had that feature, and the option to keep the old app icons with the new ui, i'd probably go for it. But as it is now, i wont be updating until there's a jailbreak available for it.
06-11-2013, 06:11 AM #43
I will keep my jailbroken ip5 and hang on until ios7 get jailbroken
06-11-2013, 06:21 AM #44
Haha! Yeah, not sure why Apple tries to crush the JB community with the anti JB campaign..they only benefit from it. Since JB came onto the scene, Apple has taken some of the tweaks and made them available to us. In the end Apple should thank all JB teams for their contributions..no joke.
06-11-2013, 06:37 AM #45
The jb community should sue apple for copying their tweaks.
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06-11-2013, 06:46 AM #46
I like to think of Apple as the production car and we, as jail breakers, are the race team that build/test the car to it's maximum potential. When we improve those achievements are then adapted to the production car.
Apple builds what is proven and solid, we build what is dreamed and wanted... in the end it makes for a great phone.
Everyone always complains that Apple doesn't listen to the jailbreak community but it seems more like the listen b/c they know we're their biggest fans!
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06-11-2013, 06:55 AM #47
These features might be old news because of the JB community, but what people fail to realize is that these tweaks will work pretty much flawlessly within the OS.
If they had quick reply, i'd probably never jailbreak anymore unless some really innovative tweak/app was released in the JB community. I will update and enjoy iOS7 for what it is and if I get bored will JB if its available.
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06-11-2013, 07:26 AM #48
Well done Apple Looking forward to iOS 7Keep it rolling babyyyyyyy
06-11-2013, 07:31 AM #49
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06-11-2013, 07:38 AM #50
New GUI is sick..gotta have it!!
06-11-2013, 08:02 AM #51
oh please. like many of these things didn't exist prior to the jailbreak community?
1. preview multitasking - webos, heck even expose
2. blocking? really? any IM client from the 90's let you block people. many phones can let you block callers. google voice (and grand central before that) let you. so did youmail.
3. live clock animation, android had it, along with live weather
4. lock screen notifications and information. blackberry, windows os 6, webos, many others had this as well
5. filters? really? plenty of others had them
6. unlimited tabs in safari. well. one could simply say they're bringing the desktop feature to ios. but even mosaic had unlimited tabs.
7. toggles - again, ripped off of android, webos, other os's. nothing new here.
none of these features were something the jailbreak community invented from nothing. while i like the JB community and all that it's done, it has mainly brought features to iOS that exist in other operating systems (for the desktop or mobiles). maybe it looks different or works a little different, but very few have been original.
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06-11-2013, 08:16 AM #52
In fact if Apple endorsed Cydia and jailbreaking they would have far more control over potential security risks than they currently do, including what material ultimately finds its way to market.
Getting back to your point have you, or anyone on this forum for that matter, ever had conclusive evidence that personal information was compromised via a program or piece of software installed via Cydia??
EDIT: I agree Apple will never endorse jailbreaking, I'm just not convinced that this is in their best interests. What a great asset the jailbreak community is. USE IT!!!
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06-11-2013, 08:26 AM #53
I wouldn't go as far saying "Borrowed". It's more like stolen from the jailbreak community. Apple looks down on jailbreaking but yet they jailbreak them self and steal ideas.
They still haven't done anything with the keyboard and auto spell.
06-11-2013, 08:41 AM #54
The whole UI seems to be inapired by the SUAVE theme.
functionality looks great. only wish there was quick reply/compose
nice article. thnx
06-11-2013, 08:56 AM #55
Don't forget about 3D springboard
06-11-2013, 09:41 AM #56
The Iphone would not be the Iphone without the jailbreak community.
1. Apple plugs any gaps in their OS that the hackers find thus making the OS even more secure.
2. Apple looks at what cool "tweaks" the dev's come up with then then "tweak" them themselves and make them even better. The new toggles in IOS7 is SBsettings but it is accessed by swiping up from the bottom which makes more sense than swiping across the top.
Either way I'm torn between jumping on 7 and waiting for a Jailbreak because I love SpeakEvents and I'm not sure I want to loose it but Stock 7 looks fantastic.
On a completely different topic, no one has been ******** about maps in ages. Is it because Apple have fixed it ??? or you've all just got really bored.
06-11-2013, 09:43 AM #57
First, I want to say I think Cydia is great. I've Jailbroken my iPhone from the original. (iPad also and it's currently stil jailbroken). There are a tom of great tweaks that community provides. But I wonder if many are missing that less than 5% of all iOS devices are jailbroken. Jailbreaking is NOT for everyone. Even though the various JB teams have done a great job making the actual JB very easy, MOST people just don't want to have to deal with. Let's face it, most just want to text, make a call, browse the web and play a game. They want simple, easy.
What Apple has done is bring some great JB tweaks to the masses. Maybe they "borrowed" them, maybe they "stole" them, but does it really matter? They are listening. They are implementing (perhaps not as fast or as wide spread as we'd like) very useful features.
Do I wish they had a quick reply or allowed themes (skinning)? YES.
I've got the iOS & beta running on my iPhone5. It is stable and very responsive.
06-11-2013, 09:49 AM #58
Now I read on the keynote that they made it so you can interact with the notifications making it so you can reply to iMessage right from the notification so wouldn't that be quick reply?
06-11-2013, 10:05 AM #59
Borrowed? Lol, more like stolen. At D11, Tim Cook specifically said he doesn't like COPYING (when the guy from the Verge asked him about Apple and Samsung lawsuits). That is why they keep trying to sue Samsung. Tim is such a hypocrite.
Anyways, can the jailbreak community sue Apple? Or is the jailbreak community considered "illegal" or "under Apple's property (or however you would call it?)"
06-11-2013, 10:20 AM #60My view on this whole thing about copying.
IOS also gives developers a chance to do what they can creatively. As a user i don't particularly care about who comes up with it. I'll always be jail-broken, I'll always appreciate great apps.