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Originally Posted by Zokunei A nice example of ad-hominem attacks and a spelling error. Truly he is smarter and more logical than everyone else who pointed this out to him....
03-19-2013, 12:14 PM #101
Ad hominem = singular, directed at an individual.
But 'crybaby fanboys' = plural, ergo not directed at an individual, ergo not ad hominem.
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Last edited by iPhoneThereforeIAm; 03-19-2013 at 12:24 PM.
03-19-2013, 12:30 PM #102
And no. If Apple follows their release history with the "s" series, this year you'll get an iPhone 5s with a faster processor. That's about it. The rest will just be minor upgrades to improve its shortcomings compare to top of the line android devices.
I still have a place in my heart for Apple. I do still own 2 iPads (one for the wife), and she still uses an iPhone 4. And in a way, I do hope I'm wrong and they'll come out with something that blows my mind, just like when the iPhone 4 was released. But at this point and time, it's not looking good.
03-19-2013, 12:31 PM #103
In fact, you never compared iOS to other OSes, even though you said that was what justified your posts.
Last edited by Zokunei; 03-19-2013 at 12:39 PM.Let's go Red Wings!
03-19-2013, 01:02 PM #104
My intentions have been made abundantly clear for all to see and even accepted by Simon the moderator.
And I really am genuinely sorry that my recanting cannot change the fact that the iPhone's 2010 day in the sun is long gone.
So there'd be little to be gained from trying to extract an Inquisition-style recantation from me - but you will always have the cherished memory of that sunny day in 2010.
I am not by nature, a fanboy - I'm too much the pragmatist.
I do not delude myself that Apple or any other manufacturer is perfect and therefore worthy of my undying loyalty regardless of desert.
If maintaining my objectivity makes me a loyalty whore, then I'm more than happy to wear that cap if it pleases you.
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03-19-2013, 01:28 PM #105
I'm not happy with the sluggish progress since 2010 either, but that doesn't change the fact that you're rude and act like you have an intellectual monopoly on the forum.
Although I don't really see what Android has done since Ice Cream Sandwich. The only difference between Google and Apple is that Google isn't calling it Android 5.0 and 6.0. I have an Android phone with 4.2.2 and the only differences between it and an iPhone are that you can have various widgets, keyboards, and themes without rooting (I don't use these personally, but they do give the OS an edge). I think that iOS has better animations and a more adequately-sized UI though, and jailbreak tweaks are better than what you can do with rooting. Those are pretty much the only reasons I like it better.Let's go Red Wings!
03-19-2013, 01:35 PM #106
I have already summed up his idiocity in previous post. I am convinced at this point he is just trolling. Ignore him.
03-19-2013, 01:40 PM #107
It's only rude to those seeking offence.
But I shall endeavour to use shorter words, if it helps.
Oh, you forgot Flash support, file-browsing and free icon-placement, BTW.
It's starting to smell a bit like BadLosersVille around here.
Last edited by iPhoneThereforeIAm; 03-19-2013 at 01:43 PM.
03-19-2013, 01:49 PM #108
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03-19-2013, 01:50 PM #109
I don't use those things either (or at least I wouldn't use file-browsing if I didn't need to install ROMs of later Android versions than the manufacturer offers). Again though, it does make Android better for people who want those features. OS preference is a purely subjective matter, and there's really no need to do anything other than try to help someone find the one that they'll like the best.
My point has never been that iOS is better than Android. My point is that you're being mean-spirited about the whole thing and don't seem to understand that there are other people as smart as you on this forum.
Last edited by Zokunei; 03-19-2013 at 01:58 PM.Let's go Red Wings!
03-19-2013, 01:52 PM #110
file browsing is available with jailbreak: ifile
Free icon placement the same with gridlock.
Compared to stock iOS yes, those are two things android has over iOS.
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03-19-2013, 01:58 PM #111
03-19-2013, 02:05 PM #112
The whole "launcher" thing on Android too I think is great. Being able to install a different "springboard" and customize it in numerous ways is a lot of fun. Kinda like dreamboard on jailbroken iOS but much more polished and developed. Being able to quickly switch between different setup layouts with a few presses is great for people who enjoy customizing.
Looking forward to see if Apple actually pushes the envelope this time with iOS7 and adds some of these things. iOS6 was a lot more of the same.
03-19-2013, 02:09 PM #113
Back to the original post of his thread. Blackberry CEO does make a lot of solid points, that iOS is aged, but by no means rendered invalid because of it.
03-19-2013, 02:09 PM #114
Launchscreen basics like a clock, date and weather are basic requirements for many people.
Trivialising it isn't going to change that.
Sure you can get PerPageHTML+ for a Springboard clock and all the other JB tweaks, but as far as sales are concerned, only considerations of stock OS's matter.
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03-19-2013, 03:09 PM #115
I am sorry, but there has been nothing revolutionary in any of these phones for years. There are neat little add ons and tweaks that people might enjoy, but that is what they are, add ons and tweaks. Deciding whether or not to buy a phone based upon whether or not your weather is on the launchscreen is really silly, but that is what the differences between these phones has become. Even arguing over processor speed has become silly, does the current processor speed really become a bottle neck? Better cameras, LTE, better video, longer battery life, bigger screen, as long as it fits into your pocket, sturdier build, that is what it is coming down to, nothing revolutionary at all.
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03-19-2013, 03:18 PM #116
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03-19-2013, 03:47 PM #118
He's right. Processor upgrades and internal specs have become trivial now for the mobile computation that is needed by consumers until our smartphones literally replace our desktops/laptops. I already mentioned this in a previous post.
Smartphones the way they are today, it really comes down to OS choice now, and none of them are "bad."
I prefer iOS for several reasons, and without getting into all of them, I'll point out the major ones:
• 3rd party app support. The majority of apps are being developed for iOS and android, however, iOS has better integration because of far less fragmentation.
• Build quality - iPhones are always built top-notch. Not that there aren't other android phones that have great build quality (I'm looking at you, HTC One)
• Apple support and customer service - ill never forget how I broke my iPad by dropping it and how Apple replaces it for free without Apple Care even!
• Eco System - with the amount of money I already have invested into iOS it would be difficult for me to switch to another platform. I have bought nearly every popular app in the App Store! Probably over five thousand dollars in apps over the years!
03-19-2013, 03:49 PM #119
They are less expensive and there are a large number of companies making them.
I didn't argue there aren't differences between phones, I did argue there haven't been any revolutionary changes.
There is one iphone and there are dozens of androids. If you really like having the weather on your launchscreen you buy a phone that does it. If you are trying to argue that is revolutionary than you are being downright foolish.
03-19-2013, 03:56 PM #120