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    Here's a great lesson for us to read on the topic that will explain the challenge of RAM allocation even after improvements in iOS5.

    Read here:
    http://inaka.net/blog/2011/09/05/mem...nges-on-ios-5/

    Quote Originally Posted by King_O_Hill View Post
    Sorry, but Pinoy suffers from the old school thinking also that you need all this extra ram to be efficient. Sorry bud.

    I don't need to do reading, I have and I fully understand how it works. Try reading the apple specs on this and you will be amazed.

    Telling me that I am wrong just to say that I am wrong is childish. I am going by what the specs are for apple not what I think. How could I make this up.
    Read some more King. Not just Apple's rhetoric. And pay attention to your own experience when JBen and RAM reads low. It's very measurable what I'm talking about and is discussed all over the web. It's not like you to act like an Apple fanboy.

    And please don't ever again insinuate I don't know how my phone works. :-/.
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    King could be very on point with that thought. My methods of keeping my device clean developed way back in the iPhone 3 days. It has become less and less necessary as ram has quadrupled. It's just a process that has stuck with me. I'm a IT guy so for me it's like keeping a clean workstation. Truth is us as modders are respringing and rebooting enough all the time that it probably offers very little if any noticeable affect for us. One thing it does for me though is give me the knowledge how my ram is used. That gives me the ability to truly gauge how much I widgets and LS's are consuming memory. Same theory. A lot of widgets will slow your device down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    Here's a great lesson for us to read on the topic that will explain the challenge of RAM allocation even after improvements in iOS5.

    Read here:
    http://inaka.net/blog/2011/09/05/mem...nges-on-ios-5/

    Read some more King. Not just Apple's rhetoric. And pay attention to your own experience when JBen and RAM reads low. It's very measurable what I'm talking about and is discussed all over the web. It's not like you to act like an Apple fanboy.
    Thank you! That proves my point in great detail. Apparently you don't understand it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinoy View Post
    King could be very on point with that thought. My methods of keeping my device clean developed way back in the iPhone 3 days. It has become less and less necessary as ram has quadrupled. It's just a process that has stuck with me. I'm a IT guy so for me it like keeping a clean workstation. Truth is us as bidders are redo ringing and rebooting enough all the time that it probably offers very little if any noticeable affect for us.
    Thanks bro, I appreciate you being honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King_O_Hill View Post
    Thank you! That proves my point in great detail. Apparently you don't understand it.
    I understand it pretty well. And the author mentions many challenges in developer programming before the phone gets to near crashing stage for lack of RAM. Did you read it all? Apple builds in safeguards so RAM can't go too low. But the phone runs slower the more RAM is active WHEN you're near the cap - which is more possible when JB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    I understand it perfectly. And the author mentions many challenges in developer programming before the phone gets to near crashing stage for lack of RAM. You must have only skimmed the article.
    Yes it does, but that's due to poorly written code that it states apple will refuse apps for. You are trying to read between the lines here. I'm not saying that an app can't get through that doesn't fully comply, but I believe it is rare. This just makes it difficult on programmers to please apple and meet their memory management.

    Trust me, there is nothing that you can find to prove me wrong here. This is how it is supposed to work. Stop obsessing over ran usage and let it happen. I've had my ram down below 15 before and not had issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    I understand it pretty well. And the author mentions many challenges in developer programming before the phone gets to near crashing stage for lack of RAM. Did you read it all? Apple builds in safeguards so RAM can't go too low. But the phone runs slower the more RAM is active WHEN you're near the cap - which is more possible when JB.
    Yes, exactly that there are safeguards built in. How many times have you had apps crash due to low ram?
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    Quote Originally Posted by King_O_Hill View Post
    Yes it does, but that's due to poorly written code that it states apple will refuse apps for. You are trying to read between the lines here. I'm not saying that an app can't get through that doesn't fully comply, but I believe it is rare. This just makes it difficult on programmers to please apple and meet their memory management.
    Finally a reasonable concession. Good for you! Of course apps, especially JB tweaks don't meet Apple standards for Memory management. What is this whole thread about? A "jailbreak tweak"! Context is everything in these kinds of conversations, King!
    Trust me, there is nothing that you can find to prove me wrong here.
    ABOUT WHAT, Dude? I can show you with your own 4S! You're killing me! You must run next to NO tweaks.
    This is how it is supposed to work. Stop obsessing over ram usage and let it happen.
    I know all about how dynamic allocation of RAM works in iOS. In the JB world we're not dealing with "Apple specs". Ironically this is the very reason Apple doesn't want us to jailbreak. Isn't that funny?!!
    I've had my ram down below 15 before and not had issues.
    With respect, I don't believe you. You'd have to prove that to me with a video.

    iOS does not run perfectly with only 15 MB of RAM left. It just doesn't, King. And there's nothing YOU can show me to prove otherwise.
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    You guys are funny. Tomorrow jailbreak so we can get back to business. You guys are my temporary thread. I just follow you both around. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    Finally a reasonable concession. Good for you! Of course apps, especially JB tweaks don't meet Apple standards for Memory management. What is this whole thread about? A "jailbreak tweak"! Context is everything in these kinds of conversations, King!
    ABOUT WHAT, Dude? I can show you with your own 4S! You're killing me! You must run next to NO tweaks. I know all about how dynamic allocation of RAM works in iOS. In the JB world we're not dealing with "Apple specs". Ironically this is the very reason Apple doesn't want us to jailbreak. Isn't that funny?!! With respect, I don't believe you. You'd have to prove that to me with a video.

    iOS does not run perfectly with only 15 MB of RAM left. It just doesn't, King. And there's nothing YOU can show me to prove otherwise.
    I run a fair share of tweaks. Also the reason apple doesn't want us to jailbreak has nothing to do with ram usage. It has everything to do with security, period.

    I've only got 75mb right now. That's pretty normal for me. But I have about a dozen apps running in my switcher. Next time I get down around 15, I'll send you a SS.

    What do you mean by "run perfectly". That's what you like to do is make these statements that have no real solid footing. This is rather biased, as your perfectly may not be my perfectly. What I refer to is it running within factory specs.
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    I'm done here. . Great discussion. I learned a lot. I always do with King (And Anthony!!!). He sharpens me. I just found out in another thread King's a "coder" for his living. I can't hang with that. Lol!! I'm well read on the topic and have dabbled in code for much of my life all the way back to Assembler and COBOL and Basic. But this new iOS world is something else. What I do know is that jailbreak tweaks are not written to Apple specs. And they can definitely slow down your phone when the ram is low. Period End of Story. Turning off the app switcher helps you get some breathing room back. Thank you Springtomize!!

    How's that for getting back to topic. :-)

    I bow to your wisdom, King! Peace out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinoy View Post
    You guys are funny. Tomorrow jailbreak so we can get back to business. You guys are my temporary thread. I just follow you both around. Lol
    I should know better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King_O_Hill View Post
    I should know better.
    Oh don't get your panties in a twist - I just paid you a compliment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    Oh don't get your panties in a twist - I just paid you a compliment.
    I thought you were going to bed!

    Thanks bro! Nighty night!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinoy View Post
    You guys are funny. Tomorrow jailbreak so we can get back to business. You guys are my temporary thread. I just follow you both around. Lol
    I do the same thing man. Love them two they r so cute together. I'm with u on the clean workstation thing. I'm a IT guy myself and it has just become habit for me to manage the ram on my phone whether it is necessary or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krima View Post
    I do the same thing man. Love them two they r so cute together. I'm with u on the clean workstation thing. I'm a IT guy myself and it has just become habit for me to manage the ram on my phone whether it is necessary or not.
    Yup yup brother. I agree. It makes me feel better and that's what matters. Lol

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    Old school dudes! You guys crack me up!
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    @King you grab the 5 yet bro? Curious how your liking it.

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    Old school dudes! You guys crack me up!
    I can live with that. Chuck Taylor's and all. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinoy View Post
    @King you grab the 5 yet bro? Curious how your liking it.
    Too early to ask that! Ask in 11 hours and 4 minutes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinoy View Post
    Yup yup brother. I agree. It makes me feel better and that's what matters. Lol
    Hell yeah that's what matters. I love this forum there is so much bravado. This is my only forum I have ever really been apart of so I don't know if this is the norm or if modmyi just brings it out of people. Either way this place is fun.
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    Yeah, picked it up Friday. I did a DFU restore to 6.1 and it is sitting on my desk waiting for JB. Although 2 of my kids have the 5 and I do play with them and I like it a lot. It is so much lighter for one, I love holding it.

    Damn, most of that doesn't sound right.

    Anyway it is very fast and I love the LTE. I have no complaints. Except for needing a JB to customize it. If I had to run stock, it would have to be a 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Bouchard View Post
    Too early to ask that! Ask in 11 hours and 4 minutes!
    I just mean stock brother. Im Pretty happy with it. It's lightning fast. (Got 48 hrs ago)

    Quote Originally Posted by King_O_Hill View Post
    Yeah, picked it up Friday. I did a DFU restore to 6.1 and it is sitting on my desk waiting for JB. Although 2 of my kids have the 5 and I do play with them and I like it a lot. It is so much lighter for one, I love holding it.

    Damn, most of that doesn't sound right.

    Anyway it is very fast and I love the LTE. I have no complaints. Except for needing a JB to customize it. If I had to run stock, it would have to be a 5.
    Ya I agree. Should I restore on comp? I did OTA to get to 6.1! Will that mess with my ability to downgrade in the future FWs?
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