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12-12-2012, 12:59 PM #1
Schmidt: Android is Winning The War Against Apple
Android is winning the war for mobile against Apple.
If you think these sound like fighting words between fans in iOS and Android camps, you're not alone. But Google's chairman Eric Schmidt started the war of words today by making the bold claim in a new interview with Bloomberg.
The provocative comments included Schmidt's assertion that Android is pulling ahead of Apple in the mobile-software market "at a rate that compares with Microsoft’s expansion in desktop software in the 1990s."
Of course, it's not like Schmidt didn't offer some compelling evidence to back up his argument. Android, after all, claimed 72 percent of the smartphone market in the third quarter pf 2012. Apple in comparison retained only 14 percent. Independently, Gartner reports that customers are activating well over 1.3 million Android devices a day.
“This is a huge platform change; this is of the scale of 20 years ago -- Microsoft versus Apple,” Schmidt said. “We’re winning that war pretty clearly now.”
So far, Apple is yet to offer formal comments in response.
12-12-2012, 01:05 PM #2
Stop talking schit Schmidt.
12-12-2012, 01:12 PM #3
12-12-2012, 01:14 PM #4
And in the uk you can buy a sim free android phone for £39! This does not mean people are choosing android over iOS it only means people are buying cheap phones often when they have broken their main phone to tie then over
12-12-2012, 01:17 PM #5
12-12-2012, 01:21 PM #6
It is normal two win as Schmidt say, when your platform goes on all cheap smartphones on the market. Most of the Android phones are much more affordable, than iPhone. Bud here is not about winning is about what that smartphone does and a jailbreak iPhone does a lot more than any Android.
12-12-2012, 01:22 PM #7
he IS right.
just accept it and go on with your life.
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12-12-2012, 01:22 PM #8
Android claimed 72% in 2012. Well they should with the 50 different android devices they keep coming out with and when it breaks they buy another android and activate it
12-12-2012, 01:27 PM #9
12-12-2012, 01:29 PM #10
He's making the wrong comparison... You can't compare the 200 different Android phones to 1 Apple. You would have to compare the sales of iPhone5 to Samsung SIII to get the correct figures.
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12-12-2012, 01:30 PM #11
I guess you would be winning if there are a billion android devices compared to the few that apple has.
12-12-2012, 01:32 PM #12
12-12-2012, 01:34 PM #13
- beam content to another iPhone by just taping the two together? NO
- use voice commands to operate the phone? voice commands, not talking about voice dictation. NO
- run widgets? real widgets--from the apps you have installed (not limited to somebody's 3rd party crappy widget) NO
- share any file of any type with just one tap? NO
- drag and drop files....like say music and then use those files? NO
give you; a larger screen, expandable memory, HDMI ports, USB ports, 5.1 dolby surround sound, NFC, 720p or 1080p displays? quad core processors or 2GB RAM?
the fact that you have to even jailbreak an iPhone just to get simple and basic features of stock Android speaks volumes as to why iOS is inferior to Android when it comes to sheer useability and user experience.| Desktop: Windows 7 | Phone: Samsung Galaxy S4 | Tablet: Galaxy Tab 10.1 |
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12-12-2012, 01:36 PM #14
12-12-2012, 01:36 PM #15
I wouldn't be surprised. Apple seems to be more worried about beefing up their security on the iOS than giving it new and competing technology. Adding 1 or 2 new features per new release just won't cut it anymore. Especially with the lack of Jailbreaking availability on new devices. People are tired of paying crazy prices for technology they can get in a much more less costly alternative. Im willing to pay the $ if I'm able to do what I want to my device. $799+$99 (if you want AppleCare) for a phone that is limited to the same or less capabilities of a phone you can get for $300 or less. People are tired of taking a big bite of a rotten apple. Sorry but not being able to jb my iPhone/iPad is seriously pissing me off. (IM NOT SAYING ANYTHING AGAINST THE DEVS!!! I know they bust their a** to give us a jb and it's not their fault. Apple needs to loosen up the choke hold.) I mean seriously who cares? They will sell more devices.
12-12-2012, 01:40 PM #16
if people could get iOS on other phones--like the Galaxy S3 or the Note II, then iOS would have a much much larger share because people could get the OS they want on a phone that they want. \
If there was absolutely no other Android phone beside the S3, it would got toe-to-toe with any iPhone easily and would probably still be preferred over an iPhone.
unlike iOS users, Android users dont buy phones because they are pretty to look at. we buy phones that have the features we want like 4" screens and 4G which are old on Android phones but you're only just now getting that with the iPhone 5.
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12-12-2012, 01:50 PM #17
12-12-2012, 01:58 PM #18
Shcmidt is shcit. Haha apple may be losing but I'm never going near an android
12-12-2012, 01:59 PM #19
I can guarantee that IF a jb is not found for the iPhone 5 in the next few months then I'm over Apple and I guess will be going to a rooted Android (not that apple cares).
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12-12-2012, 02:04 PM #20
In this instance it really isn't about who is swinging the biggest meat-sword ... It's about quality. At least, it is for me. As a lot have observed, it's very easy to lead the market when you have a glut of devices out there, and some for very cheap. I mean, most pay-as-you-go phones I see now are Android. And they are junk.
If I were Schmidt I'd be focusing on better quality in the devices I chose to associate myself with.
And there is a direct comparison to PC and MAC in the 90's, as Mr. Schmidt was nice enough to point out. There are how many manufacturers that build devices that run M$ Win-blows? And then, how many are there that actually build quality machines?
Now, how many build Mac OS compatible machines? 1. And are they of the highest quality? Yes.
Same goes for iPad and M$ Surface tablets ... People are thinking about filing a class-action suit against M$ because they advertise a 32GB device only to find that a measley 18GB is usable because the OS is bloatware, filled with useless drivers for other devices it may be installed on.
Are there drawbacks to having a device and OS made by the same company? Absolutely ... Innovation is dictated by only one official source, and we get what they want us to have when they want us to have it. But as we all know, this is where the Jailbreak community comes into play.
How many times have we seen an innovative idea spawned by the JB code monkeys that was absorbed into the next release of iOS? Is it bad that they "steal" these ideas and make it so those that worked so hard on the JB apps get nothing? Sure, but really, how many coders do you know that do it to get rich? None. Most do it because they HAVE to. And there will always be usability niches that need to be filled ... until they don't.
Sorry to ramble on, but I get tired of the pud-waving Google does, when they are really only a software venture. Apple does hardware and software, and until Google can say the same they need to stop making comparisons between themselves and Apple. It's like comparing, well, Apples to oranges ...