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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by subywrex View Post
    He probably listens to music app a lot of the day.
    I have used Spotify to stream music and listen to cached music, however my Music application is shelved and I don't use it. I haven't listened to any, as far as I remember, throughout my testing period. The only time the iPod controls were ever in use was when I streamed video through YouTube.

    My results are mixed between 4G LTE and Wi-Fi usage. It is what it is, I was recently claiming on Twitter that iOS 6.0.2 actually increased my battery life. After our moderator Orby told me that better battery life could be achieved by DFU restoring to the public version of iOS 6.0 over the factory version of iOS 6.0, I tried that and I've been updating my firmware through iTunes ever since, so this could also have some leverage on my battery.

    Remember, when I said 8 hours, I was referring to usage of LTE, GPS, all the works. This is the first time I've ever gotten anywhere near 10 hours on Wi-Fi, however I've never tested on iOS 6.0.2 either. I'm thinking it has something to do with iOS 6.0.2.

  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Bouchard View Post
    I have used Spotify to stream music and listen to cached music, however my Music application is shelved and I don't use it. I haven't listened to any, as far as I remember, throughout my testing period. The only time the iPod controls were ever in use was when I streamed video through YouTube.

    My results are mixed between 4G LTE and Wi-Fi usage. It is what it is, I was recently claiming on Twitter that iOS 6.0.2 actually increased my battery life. After our moderator Orby told me that better battery life could be achieved by DFU restoring to the public version of iOS 6.0 over the factory version of iOS 6.0, I tried that and I've been updating my firmware through iTunes ever since, so this could also have some leverage on my battery.

    Remember, when I said 8 hours, I was referring to usage of LTE, GPS, all the works. This is the first time I've ever gotten anywhere near 10 hours on Wi-Fi, however I've never tested on iOS 6.0.2 either. I'm thinking it has something to do with iOS 6.0.2.
    Right but you see my point. 12 out of 48 hours is 1/4 usage of your phone. And when I means music app was referring to any type of playing music. Even streaming music doesn't use much data. Especially when your screen is off. Actual screen time is what uses most of your battery.

    I would say on a normal heavy user 1 day of battery is about normal. When I stream spotify my battery specs are amazing. When I don't and am using the phone more my battery drains a little faster. 8 hours is about normal Usage for me.

    But hey maybe that dfu restore really works. I'm to lazy to try lol

  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by subywrex View Post
    Right but you see my point. 12 out of 48 hours is 1/4 usage of your phone. And when I means music app was referring to any type of playing music.
    Unless you're referring to streaming from YouTube, I didn't stream or play music in my testing period.

    The DFU ordeal is on Orby, I just took his word for it

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    Weird. My usage and standby are reading the same time. But my screen has definitely been off today. Wonder what could cause that.

    edit: dataman was the culprit I believe, seems to run even in standby

  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Weird. My usage and standby are reading the same time. But my screen has definitely been off today. Wonder what could cause that.
    Any kind of background processing will count as usage.

    I'm not sure why they're reading exactly the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Bouchard View Post
    Any kind of background processing will count as usage.

    I'm not sure why they're reading exactly the same?
    dataman was doing it, wonder how much battery it was using.

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    dataman was doing it, wonder how much battery it was using.
    I'm convinced there are a lot of apps that run in the background draining batteries. People have such wildly different experiences with their battery life yet using the same phone. It's maddening to get to the bottom of it. If an iP5 on 6.0.2 can get Anthony's stats using lots of LTE, Wifi and GPS data usage - it'll be the first phone since iP4 on iOS 4.2.8 to get it.
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  8. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    I'm convinced there are a lot of apps that run in the background draining batteries. People have such wildly different experiences with their battery life yet using the same phone. It's maddening to get to the bottom of it. If an iP5 on 6.0.2 can get Anthony's stats using lots of LTE, Wifi and GPS data usage - it'll be the first phone since iP4 on iOS 4.2.8 to get it.
    There are apps doing stuff in the background. It's a part of notifications.

  9. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by mustard05 View Post
    There are apps doing stuff in the background. It's a part of notifications.
    Are you implying that if I turned off all notifications my battery life would 'double' from what it is now?
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  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    Are you implying that if I turned off all notifications my battery life would 'double' from what it is now?
    No, but it would increase.....not double though. The gains wouldn't be out of this world either.

    I def limit the number of app that utilize NC for that reason. It has helped me.

  11. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by mustard05 View Post
    No, but it would increase.....not double though. The gains wouldn't be out of this world either.

    I def limit the number of app that utilize NC for that reason. It has helped me.
    You'd be right about that.

    You have to think that these applications are connecting to the Internet constantly for your notifications. If you're in standby mode, the notifications turn on your display for however long it stays on for, and if you're using your iPhone the notification uses GPU power to show the banner .

    It's not an out-of-this-world battery gain, but there is a battery gain when you limit your services.

  12. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Bouchard View Post
    You'd be right about that.

    You have to think that these applications are connecting to the Internet constantly for your notifications. If you're in standby mode, the notifications turn on your display for however long it stays on for, and if you're using your iPhone the notification uses GPU power to show the banner .

    It's not an out-of-this-world battery gain, but there is a battery gain when you limit your services.
    But the promised battery specs are not based on turning off key iPhone features. Without the NC an iPhone isn't an iPhone.
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  13. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    But the promised battery specs are not based on turning off key iPhone features. Without the NC an iPhone isn't an iPhone.
    We're only discussing the principle, nothing about any kind of promised battery specs. At least that is what I have gathered from the most recent posts here.

  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Bouchard View Post
    We're only discussing the principle, nothing about any kind of promised battery specs. At least that is what I have gathered from the most recent posts here.
    You actually are missing the gist of the conversation, Anthony. The points about the settings in notifications were all flowing out of a conversation focused on how people are getting closer to Apple battery specs. If you reread the last 15 posts instead of the last 5 you'll see the context again. I'm not trying to be a pain, I just want everyone to understand the context of the conversation. Context is everything. And all of us are reading a lot of threads. It's easy to forget context.
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  15. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    You actually are missing the gist of the conversation, Anthony. The points about the settings in notifications were all flowing out of a conversation focused on how people are getting closer to Apple battery specs. If you reread the last 15 posts instead of the last 5 you'll see the context again. I'm not trying to be a pain, I just want everyone to understand the context of the conversation. Context is everything. And all of us are reading a lot of threads. It's easy to forget context.
    I'm just not commenting on that part of this discussion. That's all. The subject has shifted since the last 15 posts, indefinitely. From Apple's promised battery life, to what can increase battery life.

    I am confirming mustard05's statement. It is true.
    Last edited by Anthony Bouchard; 12-23-2012 at 07:24 PM.

  16. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Bouchard View Post
    I'm just not commenting on that part of this discussion. That's all.

    I am confirming mustard05's statement. It is true.
    Understood. But mustard was speaking to the larger context in his comment. I should have quoted him in my response and not you, Anthony. My bad.
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  17. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Bouchard View Post
    We're only discussing the principle, nothing about any kind of promised battery specs. At least that is what I have gathered from the most recent posts here.
    Not to cause any more confusion, but Apple's claim of battery life, and iOS's implementing of the NC go hand in hand. Meaning, when Apple does battery tests, the tester phone won't have Apps like Facebook, games, etc. It won't be a device convoluted with Apps. I know this because I worked with an Apple engineer early this year regarding battery issues. To accurately test several devices, the iPhones needed to only have native apps installed. Which is what led me to my stance on monitoring and governing what a user has set up with NC.

    For example, FB will put more load on your phone than you think. Gmail will also put more load because the phone has to check for new mail.

    EDIT: My post was meant towards a different user, not you Anthony. I quoted the wrong post. My bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    Understood. But mustard was speaking to the larger context in his comment. I should have quoted him in my response and not you, Anthony. My bad.
    Haha, I meant to quote you and accidentally quoted Anthony. We made the same mistake. Birds of a feather right? Lol
    Last edited by mustard05; 12-23-2012 at 08:02 PM.

  18. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by mustard05 View Post
    Not to cause any more confusion, but Apple's claim of battery life, and iOS's implementing of the NC go hand in hand. Meaning, when Apple does battery tests, the tester phone won't have Apps like Facebook, games, etc. It won't be a device convoluted with Apps. I know this because I worked with an Apple engineer early this year regarding battery issues. To accurately test several devices, the iPhones needed to only have native apps installed. Which is what led me to my stance on monitoring and governing what a user has set up with NC.

    For example, FB will put more load on your phone than you think. Gmail will also put more load because the phone has to check for new mail.
    Uggh. You make an interesting yet very frustrating point.

    AND - we still haven't gotten to the bottom of why 98% of iP5 users reporting in don't get anywhere near Anthony's battery life. The whole story is not presenting itself yet. :-/
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  19. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    Uggh. You make an interesting yet very frustrating point.

    AND - we still haven't gotten to the bottom of why 98% of iP5 users reporting in don't get anywhere near Anthony's battery life. The whole story is not presenting itself yet. :-/
    Simple, Anthony must have only listens to music, with wifi and LTE off. Lol

  20. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    Uggh. You make an interesting yet very frustrating point.

    AND - we still haven't gotten to the bottom of why 98% of iP5 users reporting in don't get anywhere near Anthony's battery life. The whole story is not presenting itself yet. :-/
    If it's any pattern, I'm getting similar results today.

    At 59% battery currently with 7 hours of use and 1 day, 11 hours of standby.

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