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09-03-2012, 09:51 PM #1
Bruce Willis is Not Planning to Invade Cupertino and Secure His iTunes Collection
Turns out Bruce Willis isn’t invoking his inner Die Hard, and likely doesn’t care what happens to his iTunes music collection.
For those who missed it, and I’m sur many of you did, numerous UK tabloids like The Daily Mail and The Sun reported that Willis was planning to sue Apple over who would inherit the actor’s massive music collection when he dies. Willis was “reportedly looking into setting up trusts” to act as legal “holders” and even looked into possibly suing Apple to make sure the music stayed in the family according to CNET.
However, Emma Heming-Willis (Bruce’s wife) debunked the story via Twitter today replying to a fans tweet that “it’s not a true story.” Parade officially rained on.
But, the story did bring to light an important question: “Who gets my digital crap when I die?” Apparently iTunes and Amazon users who purchase content through their media services are only “indefinitely renting” the content and do not actually own anything. So I guess the question is, when does indefinitely end? Your death?
Obviously no one is investing their fortunes in digital goods in hopes that they’ll someday appreciate in value and act as a digital fortune for their heirs. But, maybe someday, that content will be be valuable enough to warrant the discussion, especially as physical media continues to die out.
09-03-2012, 10:24 PM #2
When I pay for something I'TS MINE!
If I buy a song from iTunes I do what I WANT with it NOT what Apple tells me to do.
If I want to transfer it to a different MP3 player then I will as I PAID for it so I can do whatever I like with it.
As I have the file I can remove the protection as its on MY computer and I can do whatever I like to anything on MY computer.
Apple have NO rights to my files after I paid for them.
IF they want to give them to me for free then ok, they can have an agreement but as money has changed hands its now MINE.
09-03-2012, 10:40 PM #3
09-03-2012, 10:43 PM #4
As physical media dies, it's value is going up I hope. But I must of missed iTunes fine print cause I didn't know it was called "infinity renting" it always says purchase when I buy a song"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not"
09-03-2012, 10:45 PM #5
Oh and it is no different for print media. You can't buy a book and legally photocopy it. Limitations have always been placed on what you can do with something you paid for and supposedly "own". Different rules for different countries of course.
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09-03-2012, 11:05 PM #9
All these questions can be answered if one person actually decides to read the terms and agreements..
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09-03-2012, 11:52 PM #12
Hmmmm....Got me thinking there....
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09-04-2012, 12:23 AM #15
If I were a record label executive (or a movie studio executive), and I just read this thread, I'd have a heart attack...
"Dearie me, these plebeians have no concept of respect of intellectual property or contract law! THIS IS WHY WE HAVE THE RIAA (and MPAA) IN PLACE TO SUE ANY DAFT ENOUGH TO DEFRAUD US! WE'RE UNDER ATTACK FROM ALL FRONTS!
And they'll probably win a tort action against you. Contracts, once voluntarily agreed to, are a near-impossible yoke to shrug off.
This insouciant attitude of "it's mine to do with what I want, I paid for it!" (plus "it's digital! It doesn't really matter!"), is why we have positively draconian DRM schemes in place and various pieces of legislation enacted to curtail digital file sharing (wholly aboveboard and morally correct, like described here, plus the other kinds). It's a very nasty negative feedback cycle, I'm afraid... There's no winner.
That being said, this is a total joke. The only solutions to this problem of licensing instead of ownership are legislative (software bought digitally is purchased, not licensed; so the "first-sale doctrine" applies), or consumer boycott (going cold turkey on content--that means no piracy either).
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09-04-2012, 12:58 AM #17
I see it as, if iTunes allows me to burn it to a cd then it's 100% mine. At that point the music has no copy protection or registration info and no one can take it away. Except some guy that might break in and steal the cd. But that really goes without saying.
09-04-2012, 01:11 AM #18
Ok so your reporting on a story from The Sun and Daily Mail 2 of the biggest news papers in the UK and also the worst.
The rumours you post on here about the next gen iPhone have more truth in them.
09-04-2012, 01:19 AM #19
Essentially the law, in many countries, states that when you purchase copyrighted material you own the physical copy of that material, or the right to consume the digital version. However you do not own the actual material. ie "When you buy a book, you own the copy of that book but not the actual material". So when you purchase songs or video from iTunes, and other similar services, then all you are purchasing is the right to consume, listen to or watch, the content. You do not actually own the content which is why restrictions are placed on what you can do with it.
So by breaching the Terms and Conditions of the sale you are breaking the law. That's a choice everyone has to make for themselves. However some of the comments here imply it is there right to do whatever they like with the digital content they purchase. It certainly is their choice to do so but in no way do they actually have the right to do so. No doubt we have all breached those Terms and Conditions at some point, I know I have.
09-04-2012, 03:03 AM #20
Meh when I'm dead I don't give two f**ks what happens to my collection of 80s anthems.
I don't see how this is an issue though. I have all my music stored locally. It's physically on my iPhone, it's on my MacBook, and it on my TimeMachine, and also in my Mozy online backup. When I die, it's not going to disappear. I do what I want with my music and my children can do whatever they want to do when I'm gone.
Now untwist your panties everyone.