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    Default Apple Rumored to be Testing New Asymmetric Screw


    A recent rumor has been spotted on Reddit indicating that Apple may be in the works of getting asymmetric screws for their devices to keep users out. Citing Cult of Mac, the rumor comes from a leaked e-mail that supposedly came from Apple's design department in Cupertino, CA. The screw, pictured above, has a completely bizarre head pattern that will render most, if not all, known screwdrivers useless in attempting to remove the screw by the end user.

    Apple is known for trying to minimize the amount of user access to the internals of their devices. Apple switched from Phillips screws to Pentalobe screws on some of their devices to help with keeping people out (images by iFixit):



    Why would Apple be trying so hard to keep people out of their devices? – Keeping people out of their devices means less accidents are likely to happen and this means Apple won’t have to replace as many devices. Other explanations go as far as claiming that the company just likes to control everything, leaving to the user to cope with this control.

    For the average Apple device user, it probably won’t make a ton of difference what kind of screw the company decides to go with. Apple sells a whole lot more mobile devices than computers and there really isn't much room in Apple's mobile devices to make modifications.

    Apple's newer computers on the other hand, are switching from removable hardware to permanent hardware. The MacBook Air has custom storage, which can't be upgraded by the end user. The MacBook Pro with retina display has custom memory and custom storage, which cannot be upgraded or replaced by industry-standard hardware, so being able to open the device wouldn't offer much freedom to the end user in terms of non-mobile devices either.

    Although there wouldn’t be any existing screwdrivers made for this particular kind of screw, it seems like a long shot trying to use it in their devices, as third party companies will likely develop third party accessories capable of removing the screws and make these tools available to the public.

    Sources: Cult of Mac

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    Reminds me of my girlfriend. Extremely easy to strip

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    Quote Originally Posted by back2thebeatof84 View Post
    Reminds me of my girlfriend. Extremely easy to strip
    Oh, I know

    back to topic... stupidly pointless the screwdriver that fits it will be available on ebay for $1 right after launch.
    make it a great day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by back2thebeatof84 View Post
    Reminds me of my girlfriend. Extremely easy to strip
    hilarious!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Bouchard View Post
    Why would Apple be trying so hard to keep people out of their devices? – Keeping people out of their devices means less accidents are likely to happen and this means Apple won’t have to replace as many devices.
    If someone messes up their phone by opening it then I don't think that's an accident.. Plus I believe that voids the warranty anyways so Apple wouldn't be required to replace it, correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The6uest View Post
    If someone messes up their phone by opening it then I don't think that's an accident.. Plus I believe that voids the warranty anyways so Apple wouldn't be required to replace it, correct?
    Exactly, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see if a phone has been opened or not, leading to them not replacing it and voiding your warranty

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    Quote Originally Posted by The6uest View Post
    If someone messes up their phone by opening it then I don't think that's an accident.. Plus I believe that voids the warranty anyways so Apple wouldn't be required to replace it, correct?
    Technically, yes. However the customer will likely just lie and say something happened to the iPhone randomly. The Genius behind the counter will try some software diagnostics and if they can't get it to work they'll just replace it.

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    Ah, people always find a way to open iPhones up. It may be more difficult this way, but there's always a way.

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    I can see Apple patenting this design so that people can't make bits for it. They probably weren't able to patent the pentalobe design but chose it because it was rare. They need to just piss off and let people into what they bought. Better effort should be spent designing tamper-proof stickers to cover the screw holes.

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    And this my friends is what separates Mice from Men! Those that are willing to risk it (some of who frequent these very pages at MMi) by not just Jailbreaking their iPhones but going the extra step of modding the hardware adding thing like lighted logo mod kits. I say kudos to those Men that revel in the bold spirit of adventure (and having a kick azz custom phone to boot)...

    The rest? The timid, the weak that take no risk and envy or simply follow like mice behind the proverbial Pied Pipers. If you have a regular iPhone (not Jailbroken or modded) "you're doing it all wrong". Sayin...

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    Am I right in saying though that there are many qualified electrical engineers in this world that know exactly what they're doing when they open up their device. It would be wrong of apple to deny these people that replace our batterries and logic boards cheaper than apple access to our device would it not?
    Last edited by aidanharris; 08-08-2012 at 01:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aidanharris View Post
    Am I right in saying though that there are many qualified electrical engineers in this world that know exactly what they're doing when they open up their device. It would be wrong of apple to deny these people that replace our batterries and logic boards cheaper than apple access to our device would it not?
    I know, it's like I am not allowed to do what I legally want with my own device.

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    Just order the $4-from-china screwdriver and be done with it.

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    Like I said, if this is an Apple design, it will likely be patented and it will be illegal for anyone to make the bits. China will also enforce such idiocy for Apple because they will likely pay off China to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramicio View Post
    Like I said, if this is an Apple design, it will likely be patented and it will be illegal for anyone to make the bits. China will also enforce such idiocy for Apple because they will likely pay off China to do so.
    I foresee Apple VS. "insert rebel individual here" trials in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramicio View Post
    Like I said, if this is an Apple design, it will likely be patented and it will be illegal for anyone to make the bits. China will also enforce such idiocy for Apple because they will likely pay off China to do so.
    Mod edit

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    bits will be made no china company will give a crap. Do you understand how much bootleg stuff comes out of china? from clothing to beats headphones to just about anything else you can imagine. It cant and wont be stopped by anyone or any amount of money ever. Who would Apple even pay the chinese government?.. Im sure they would care to enforce something so stupid ... spoiler alert: NO
    Last edited by EVO; 08-08-2012 at 03:10 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imnothardcore View Post
    Mod edit
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    bits will be made no china company will give a crap. Do you understand how much bootleg stuff comes out of china? from clothing to beats headphones to just about anything else you can imagine. It cant and wont be stopped by anyone or any amount of money ever. Who would Apple even pay the chinese government?.. Im sure they would care to enforce something so stupid ... spoiler alert: NO
    Hahaha be nice

    But you're right, I came back from there recently, they bootleg anything and everything. I saw so many apple iPhone knockoffs
    Last edited by EVO; 08-08-2012 at 03:10 PM.

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    From the look of the render from this view, it looks as if a normal flat head would still be able to unscrew it, with minor tweaking.

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    Mods need to relax

    Quote Originally Posted by imnothardcore View Post
    Mod edit

    ...

    bits will be made no china company will give a crap. Do you understand how much bootleg stuff comes out of china? from clothing to beats headphones to just about anything else you can imagine. It cant and wont be stopped by anyone or any amount of money ever. Who would Apple even pay the chinese government?.. Im sure they would care to enforce something so stupid ... spoiler alert: NO

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    Quote Originally Posted by imnothardcore View Post
    Mod edit
    bits will be made no china company will give a crap. Do you understand how much bootleg stuff comes out of china? from clothing to beats headphones to just about anything else you can imagine. It cant and wont be stopped by anyone or any amount of money ever. Who would Apple even pay the chinese government?.. Im sure they would care to enforce something so stupid ... spoiler alert: NO
    WTF is mod edit?

    I don't understand law? Of course I do. I don't like it, but I know how it works in all of its greyness. I follow the common sense path and would probably be called all sorts of things ranging from a criminal to a pirate. As long as I don't hurt someone or their property, I should be allowed to do whatever the hell I want in this world. I "steal" music, movies, and TV shows. I evade taxes (financial slavery) as much as possible. When I finally feel like my life is in direct danger from this oppressive new world order I will likely buy a gun "illegally" and not register it or ask permission for my right to own and carry a weapon.

    Yes, the Chinese government does enforce such things. They are just as insane about customs as the US is. They don't come down on your basic bootleg stuff because they aren't paid off to do so. Bootleg stuff is also not a literal copy. Screw heads are VERY protected by patents, and globally. Apple is a large part of China's economy so they will indeed come down on people with their hammer and sickle.

    As for another retard talking to me about not knowing the law. This has nothing to do with interoperability and whatever other crap you spoke of. The design of the bit would be patented and a company could not make and sell them without Apple's permission (royalties). It's why OSes don't come with a lot of media features and the OS companies end up making their own codecs. Microsoft has WMA and WMV/VC1. Apple chose to pay royalties to MPEG for h.264 and AAC. They still have their own container and their own lossless audio format.

    Just look at how they took down that person who made that illuminated apple.

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