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08-08-2012, 04:29 PM #21
08-08-2012, 04:38 PM #22
I don't see the point. If they do release their new devices with these screws there will be tools to remove them within a month. Also, judging from the picture, I could use several different screwdrivers to remove that screw lol.
08-08-2012, 04:50 PM #23
I just can't see the point in Apple making a super-special screw that's asymmetric and supposedly be incredibly difficult to remove... and yet still be mass-produced and easily accessible by Apple.
Those two goals are totally incompatible--in order for the device to be accessible to Apple, it will by definition be accessible to customers with the same (or improvised) tools.
I just hope Apple doesn't take things to an extreme and start gluing the iPhones together like they glue other iDevices.
08-08-2012, 08:23 PM #24
So your girlfriends easy? nice to know hahaha
And, someone would develop a screwdriver or one will leak out of apple for develpment of them anyway, so oh well.
08-08-2012, 08:47 PM #25
08-08-2012, 11:53 PM #26
if that image is right it shows 2 groves parallel to each other just enough to get a Flathead screwdriver in i think
08-08-2012, 11:55 PM #27
I love Apple, and their products.....But god I HATE stuff like this! I hate the (Apple) philosophy that the customer is to stupid to open the device that they own, or do anything to their phone for that matter which Apple doesn't approve. It sucks, it really does.
If technology continues down this path....I see a BORING, bleak future ahead for any kind of modders, tweakers, creators, etc. We will be able to do what is ALLOWED....nothing more.
Just relax Apple!! We love you, we aren't going anywhere, we will pay whatever amount of money you put on the price tag....Alls we ask is that you let us own what we buy...completely.El Zurdo
08-09-2012, 12:06 AM #28
08-09-2012, 07:01 AM #29
The only thing that'll potentially keep user's out is fill the thing with superglue once it's assembled and glue the whole damn thing down. Or simply replace those 2 screws with rivets.
I don't think it's a problem with modding your device. It is people who tries to mod something, then breaks something, then tries to get it fix under warranty. Or what if the user replaces the headphone jack, but didn't do a good job and somehow short circuit the battery and it burns a hold in their pants? Then they'll sue apple for millions for something the user did. And yes, you can still sue them if a device is out of warranty. These are the main problems I can think of.
08-09-2012, 12:43 PM #30
Wow..so much for modding haha! ModMyi going under after this screw is introduced? :]
08-09-2012, 03:46 PM #31
Where did you study law?
You can copy things in the public domain. You can copy things you are licensed to copy. If you want to make something with a USB connection, you pay the USB-IF $2000 and get a vendor ID. Just because something is ubiquitous doesn't mean it's free to use.
Having said that, I would agree with Kyle Wiens at iFixit that the threads don't look right and the pattern on the head looks way too complicated to support the torque needed without slipping and grinding. They could create a new head, but that doesn't look practical. If Apple were to do something like this (and it wouldn't surprise me), unlicensed tools will be found.
08-10-2012, 12:06 AM #32
08-10-2012, 11:24 AM #33
I don't understand law? Of course I do. I don't like it, but I know how it works in all of its greyness. I follow the common sense path and would probably be called all sorts of things ranging from a criminal to a pirate. As long as I don't hurt someone or their property, I should be allowed to do whatever the hell I want in this world. I "steal" music, movies, and TV shows. I evade taxes (financial slavery) as much as possible. When I finally feel like my life is in direct danger from this oppressive new world order I will likely buy a gun "illegally" and not register it or ask permission for my right to own and carry a weapon.
Yes, the Chinese government does enforce such things. They are just as insane about customs as the US is. They don't come down on your basic bootleg stuff because they aren't paid off to do so. Bootleg stuff is also not a literal copy. Screw heads are VERY protected by patents, and globally. Apple is a large part of China's economy so they will indeed come down on people with their hammer and sickle.
As for another retard talking to me about not knowing the law. This has nothing to do with interoperability and whatever other crap you spoke of. The design of the bit would be patented and a company could not make and sell them without Apple's permission (royalties). It's why OSes don't come with a lot of media features and the OS companies end up making their own codecs. Microsoft has WMA and WMV/VC1. Apple chose to pay royalties to MPEG for h.264 and AAC. They still have their own container and their own lossless audio format.
Just look at how they took down that person who made that illuminated apple.
08-10-2012, 12:31 PM #34