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08-08-2012, 02:42 AM #1
Apple's Former Icon Designer Finds "Substantial Similarities" in Samsung GUIs
As the Apple vs. Samsung court case continues, graphic designer Susan Kare took the stand, stating that she saw “substantial similarities” between Samsung’s home screen icons and the Apple’s iPhone. Here, she seemed to echo the previous testimony from Apple expert witness Peter Bressler. According to The Wall Street Journal, Kare, a designer who has been credited with many of the original Mac’s icons including “happy Mac,” gave her testimony as an Apple expert witness at the trial, noting elements of Samsung’s UI infringing on the look of Apple’s iPhone home screen.
When Kare made her comparisons, she studied home screen icons on 11 Samsung smartphones released after the original iPhone debuted in 2007, including the “Captivate” and “Galaxy S 4G.” Among the icons studied were Contacts, Notes, Photos and Settings, which were compared to the counterpart on Samsung devices. In addition, the grid-type layout of the iPhone’s home screen was also accused of bring infringed upon by Samsung’s designs. Here, it should be pointed out that Apple owns patents regarding the look and layout of icons in the iOS platform, as seen in the company’s D’305 patent, which was filed for in 2007 and granted in 2009. According to the testimony, the two companies’ iconography was similar enough that Kare herself became confused at one point and mistook a Samsung headset for an iPhone. She mentioned the following:
I mistook one for the other. In addition to the analysis, I personally had the experience of being confused.
Samsung lawyer Charles Verhoeven argued that any customer would see the difference between an iPhone and one made by Samsung. To illustrate his point Verhoeven turned on three devices to show their respective boot sequences pointing out that that each smartphone displayed a company logo followed by a brief Droid animation, while Apple’s iPhone displayed the infamous Apple logo.
After going back and forth several times, the timeframe for today’s case had ended with the Apple vs. Samsung trial set to continue on Friday with testimony from Apple expert witnesses. In the mean time, you can see some of the court documents proving the similarities in icons below:
Source: The Wall Street Journal
08-08-2012, 03:07 AM #2
Wow. Good job apple. Found one similarity finally. Good job. Try again and you'll fail.
08-08-2012, 04:35 AM #3
08-08-2012, 04:55 AM #4
they got them on the phone icon and the music icon, whoop dee doo, i fail to see how these similarities are impacting Apple's business model or their sales figures. If its that big of a deal then change the stupid icons no one gives a **** but Apple.
08-08-2012, 05:38 AM #5
You guys really need a separate forum for this ridiculousness. Just start an Apple lawsuit sub-forum where you can post this "news."
08-08-2012, 07:21 AM #6
Not defending either side here, but I've been an iphone user since the first one. When I picked up my friends S2, it was easy for me to figure out what I wanted to do without looking for it because the icons (in my eyes) were the same.
Just stating my personal experience, not that it matters.
Find it pretty funny in the end.
08-08-2012, 08:36 AM #7
08-08-2012, 11:12 AM #8
The real question is whether Apple is losing sales due to confusion about products. I doubt that it is in any meaningful way, and if it is, I really don't think that it is due to similar icons.Quaerite et invenietis.
08-08-2012, 01:20 PM #9
Looking at these, the music icon is similar, but definitely different. They could probably get them on the phone icon, but the rest have no similarities that I can see.
08-08-2012, 08:37 PM #10
each smartphone displayed a company logo followed by a brief Droid animation, while Apple’s iPhone displayed the infamous Apple logo.
In the mean time, you can see some of the court documents proving the similarities in icons below:
As for the music icon, it's a musical note. Not exactly unique. The contacts icon is a depiction of an address book in either case, again, a generic depiction, as is using a notepad for a notes application. Also, I've seen numerous usages of one or more gear wheels used for settings/preferences/options menus and dialogs in all sorts of applications and systems, it's not something that began with iOS or OS X for that matter. Them problem with all these icons, save for maybe the phone icon, is that they are just incredibly generic depictions, that most likely could have found via google images for years before the iPhone debuted.
08-08-2012, 08:49 PM #11
i remember when apple sued microsoft over the use of a trash can icon ... and lost.
08-13-2012, 01:28 PM #12
I can also recall when practically ever E-mail application has an envelope as prominent part of it's icon. I honestly can't believe they are making a fuss over icons that contain a telephone receiver. And guess what, the angle and shape that Apple originally used and still uses is nearly identical to one I recall seeing on the cover of a phone book back around the early-mid 90's or so, side profile and angle, and white. Everything except the green background, which someone else stated might be a hold over from the green "send" buttons on pre-touchscreen phones used to place a call, which was always opposite of the red "end" button to, well, end a call, a color which Apple also uses for it's hang up button. So given the small bit of history, I can actually understand why Samsung might have used a green background for their phone button as well, albeit they could have used a different angle or so.