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Thread: Judge Awards Apple Access to Android's Entire Development History

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    Default Judge Awards Apple Access to Android's Entire Development History



    A federal judge in Chicago gave Apple keys to the Android vault this morning.

    Judge Richard Ponser ruled that Google and Motorola Mobility must share with Apple background information on the history of Android's development and Google’s in-progress acquisition of Motorola. The ruling is part of the ongoing patent litigation between Apple and Motorola. More importantly it pulls Google directly into the patent battle between Apple and Motorola.

    Google Inc. and a Motorola Mobility Holdings Inc. unit were ordered by the U.S. judge presiding over an Apple Inc. patent lawsuit to turn over information about the development of Google’s Android operating system.

    The Motorola Mobility unit and Google must also hand over to Apple information about Google’s pending $12.5 billion acquisition of the mobile-phone maker, U.S. Circuit Judge Richard A. Posner in Chicago ruled yesterday. [...]

    “The Android/Motorola acquisition discovery is highly relevant to Apple’s claims and defenses,” Apple’s attorneys’ said in a March 2 filing requesting the judge’s order. — Bloomberg
    Giving Apple access to the entirety of the Android OS development history is like giving John Dillinger keys to the bank vault. If there’s any incriminating information, Apple will find it. Not to mention Steve Job’s famous accusation that Android is “a stolen product” could gain a considerable amount of traction pending on the contents of the documents Google hands over.

    Motorola argued that because Google’s acquisition is not complete the judge cannot force Google to follow the court order. Judge Ponser doesn’t agree with that argument in his ruling.

    Source: Bloomberg [MacRumors]
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    Apple is going to rule all touchscreen devices. Not only did they drag google into the fight, google got knocked out before it knew what hit em.

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    This means nothing, they cannot simply take anything they want if they don't hold a patent to it, this is not an auction or open house sale on Android IP. I actually like this because apple is stupid enough to try and steal an idea and reuse it on their own hardware to which they will be sued out the *** for.

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    Talk about total Fandroid Bizarro logic fail. "This am nothing... Apple can't steal Google patents and... um... black am white!"

    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by baronvonnada View Post
    Talk about total Fandroid Bizarro logic fail. "This am nothing... Apple can't steal Google patents and... um... black am white!"

    LOL

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    In a totally unrelated story Judge Richard Ponser received a lifetime supply of future Apple iPhones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bry2k2 View Post
    This means nothing, they cannot simply take anything they want if they don't hold a patent to it, this is not an auction or open house sale on Android IP. I actually like this because apple is stupid enough to try and steal an idea and reuse it on their own hardware to which they will be sued out the *** for.
    Too late.
    How many dozens of ideas and tweaks developed by small time folks to make ios better because it lacked simplest operating abilities have apple incorporated in to their iOS without paying anyone for them or even anyone if they could use it?
    To take it further, most of the tweaks people developed were already part of android os since first release.
    apple should be the last company screaming that someone stole their ideas, if anything Zerox should sue everyone.
    According to patent laws, 30% change makes it your product if I recall correctly from my college years.... I'd say android is at least that....
    Last edited by malahhaor; 03-06-2012 at 05:07 PM.

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    In all reality, Apple should watch it's self, they have taken ideas from the jailbreak community (who could sue Apple for stealing their ideas and there would be legitimate proof of this), for example:
    Being apple to add Apps to the iPhone
    Video Recording
    Copy and Paste

    These are just three features that Apple has taken from the Jailbreak community and they could easily win if they sued Apple for damages. Luckily for Apple, most people in the jailbreak community care more about improving the phone than making money off of their tweaks.

    In addition, the iBooks interface is flat out stolen from Delicious Library 2, I am still shocked that they haven't gone after Apple for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malahhaor View Post
    Too late.
    How many dozens of ideas and tweaks developed by small time folks to make ios better because it lacked simplest operating abilities have apple incorporated in to their iOS without paying anyone for them or even anyone if they could use it?
    To take it further, most of the tweaks people developed were already part of android os since first release.
    apple should be the last company screaming that someone stole their ideas, if anything Zerox should sue everyone.
    According to patent laws, 30% change makes it your product if I recall correctly from my college years.... I'd say android is at least that....
    Too bad your college did not tell you Zerox is actually spelled Xerox. Even my spell checker knows this... But thats besides the point.
    If one does only look at things one way, they do only see what has been copied from Android only to iOS. Not any other way.
    So what college was that, barber or clown?
    *ba-da-boom......tisssssssss
    **sorry couldn't resist

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    I have no idea what to make of this... but it sound to me that without Steve Apple is going too get to stupid and blow all he has accomplished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadzo View Post
    I have no idea what to make of this... but it sound to me that without Steve Apple is going too get to stupid and blow all he has accomplished.
    You mean like all the other companies that don't have Steve Jobs either?

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    Which one of this millions of lawsuit filed by Apple is this again?

    I actually see this as "giving keys of the vault to a bank robber + keeping a car out front with a police escort to the airport"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atari800 View Post
    Too bad your college did not tell you Zerox is actually spelled Xerox. Even my spell checker knows this... But thats besides the point.
    If one does only look at things one way, they do only see what has been copied from Android only to iOS. Not any other way.
    So what college was that, barber or clown?
    *ba-da-boom......tisssssssss
    **sorry couldn't resist
    Really? That is what you choose to center on? Very mature.
    I made the post from my phone where I have compact keyboard and letters Z and X are on the same key. So please forgive your royal highness for misspelling.
    If it really pains you that I centered the post one way, I was replying to another post that mentioned apple taking info from android.

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    I am an avid iPhone user as is the other millions more, have been for years. But I am starting to lean more towards android more and more everyday because of easy rooting and open market tweaks that all my friends are showing me that apple doesn't have. I think this is why apple is pulling out all the stops to see if any of there idea have been stolen. They are so arrogant about their success that they think they are the only ones to come up with new and more user friendly software. They would have more to brag about if they would just shatter androids software and leave them to catch up five yrs from now. The more we buy iPhones the more we feed apples lawyers to keep messing with other companies progress and claims to fame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmwade77 View Post
    In all reality, Apple should watch it's self, they have taken ideas from the jailbreak community (who could sue Apple for stealing their ideas and there would be legitimate proof of this), for example:
    Being apple to add Apps to the iPhone
    Video Recording
    Copy and Paste

    These are just three features that Apple has taken from the Jailbreak community and they could easily win if they sued Apple for damages. Luckily for Apple, most people in the jailbreak community care more about improving the phone than making money off of their tweaks.

    In addition, the iBooks interface is flat out stolen from Delicious Library 2, I am still shocked that they haven't gone after Apple for this.
    Apple hired these people actually, they got there permission first

    and technically there using it on apples devices therefore apple had the rights to use there ideas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdogg2138 View Post
    I am an avid iPhone user as is the other millions more, have been for years. But I am starting to lean more towards android more and more everyday because of easy rooting and open market tweaks that all my friends are showing me that apple doesn't have. I think this is why apple is pulling out all the stops to see if any of there idea have been stolen. They are so arrogant about their success that they think they are the only ones to come up with new and more user friendly software. They would have more to brag about if they would just shatter androids software and leave them to catch up five yrs from now. The more we buy iPhones the more we feed apples lawyers to keep messing with other companies progress and claims to fame.
    +1
    I really liked the first iPhone, by the time 3GS came out it became too much. People standing in lines and praising it like a religion.
    I hopped they would make big improvements in every release but it's just small incremental and not what people want. Even the simplest text editing is a pain in the but.
    When transformer prime hd comes out I'm giving my iPad to my wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malahhaor View Post
    Really? That is what you choose to center on? Very mature.
    I made the post from my phone where I have compact keyboard and letters Z and X are on the same key. So please forgive your royal highness for misspelling.
    If it really pains you that I centered the post one way, I was replying to another post that mentioned apple taking info from android.
    Android looked like blackberry OS until Apple released iOS, so wtf are you talking about? OMG GUYS APPLE STOLE NOTIFICATIONS, but lets forget who basically stole the entire concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norbs View Post
    Android looked like blackberry OS until Apple released iOS, so wtf are you talking about? OMG GUYS APPLE STOLE NOTIFICATIONS, but lets forget who basically stole the entire concept.
    Have you seen LG Prada KE850 ? The one that came out before iPhone? The first capacitive touch screen most Apple fanboys wants to believe Apple is the first one to use. Search youtube and see how it operates especially the commercial demo, should LG file lawsuit against Apple? Android is more similar to FlashUI than iOS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norbs View Post
    Android looked like blackberry OS until Apple released iOS, so wtf are you talking about? OMG GUYS APPLE STOLE NOTIFICATIONS, but lets forget who basically stole the entire concept.
    Yeah buddy... Keep telling yourself that notification center is the only thing apple took from the jailbreak community and android....
    iOS was announced in january and android release in November and was nothing like Blackberry. If you think that between January and November they recoded entire os, then sure, it's a stolen design....
    Since we are on that topic, NEC should sue Apple since they had a full touch screen phone in. 2004. oh! What's that?! Apple wasn't the first kid on the block with that idea? Imagine that.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by malahhaor View Post
    Since we are on that topic, NEC should sue Apple since they had a full touch screen phone in. 2004. oh! What's that?! Apple wasn't the first kid on the block with that idea? Imagine that.....
    Well Apple had a touchscreen/stylus phone back in 1983. Apple had a prototype touchscreen phone in 1983

    Or did you mean just the cellphone market.

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