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12-05-2011, 01:16 PM #1
Carrier IQ Scandal Places Apple at Center of New Class Action Lawsuit
File this one under the category: "We All Saw This Coming."
It seems Apple has been named in a brand new class-action lawsuit related to the Carrier IQ scandal that sent mobile privacy advocates and smartphone users alike into a frenzy in recent days.
The Carrier IQ software is what's known as a rootkit that is installed at a carrierís request on mobile phones. Carrier IQ raises user privacy concerns because it runs in the background and monitors and logs user activity. Carrier IQ is believed to be installed on more than 100 million devices around the world.
The lawsuit in question was filed by Delaware-based Sianni & Straite LLP and, in addition to Apple, it targets HTC, Samsung and Motorola, not to mention heavyweight carriers like AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile. The lawsuit alleges an "unprecedented breach in the digital privacy rights of 150 million cell phone users."
AT&T and Sprint - two iPhone carriers in the U.S. - claim the Carrier IQ software and its collected data are only used as a means to "improve service performance." As MMi reported last week, Apple said in response to the "scandal" that it "stopped supporting Carrier IQ with iOS 5 in most of our products and will remove it completely in a future software update."
Source: Sianni & Straite LLP
12-05-2011, 01:22 PM #2
So, apple has the least invasive version of that bullcrap, but the class action lawsuit is aimed at it in the first place... :no idea:And i don't see rim, nokia and google in the list. Wtf is happening to this world.
12-05-2011, 01:29 PM #3
This will be easy when the discovery phase comes around for AT&T and Sprint. They say it was only used to improve service performance so when it comes time to prove that, they'll provide records that show what they collected and will be able to back up their claims and then they'll simply ask for a release from the lawsuit and they'll get out.
Apple is worried about this clearly because they have adamantly stated they stopped supporting it and are removing it in newer versions.
T-Mobile hasn't commented so who knows what dirty secrets they are hiding and Verizon has already said they never used it so that explains why they aren't named in the lawsuit.
I don't think we'll see Google since this was a phone manufacturer/carrier combination thing whereas Google only makes the OS but presumably wouldn't get involved with Carrier IQ since they have no reason to.
You are right and I too am curious why RIM and Nokia aren't named in this. Especially RIM since they have already admitted to using Carrier IQ's software.
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12-05-2011, 02:29 PM #6
If anyone read ATT's terms, this is kind of a useless argument. It is like visiting a website and being shocked to find out that the site is looking through logs and viewing IPs of users and how they interact with the site.3.6 AT&T collects information about the approximate location of your Device in relation to our cell towers and the Global Positioning System (GPS). We use that information, as well as other usage and performance information also obtained from our network and your Device, to provide you with wireless voice and data services, and to maintain and improve our network and the quality of your wireless experience. We may also use location information to create aggregate data from which your personally identifiable information has been removed or obscured. Such aggregate data may be used for a variety of purposes such as scientific and marketing research and services such as vehicle traffic volume monitoring. It is your responsibility to notify users on your account that we may collect and use location information from Devices.
12-05-2011, 02:57 PM #7
Do we already have an AT&T Rep commenting on this? lol Good lookin out for your company. It still doesn't prove that personal information is obscured or not used. Just like apple says it has the least invasive IQ of em all doesn't mean its true. Also curious to see how this all pans out.
12-05-2011, 03:42 PM #8
What the hell does "most of its products in iOS5" even mean? You either take it out or you don't. What products still have it?
12-05-2011, 04:22 PM #9
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12-05-2011, 05:35 PM #11
I don't know about you, but I do ALL of my banking on my phones and tablets and I don't want anybody snooping, I don't care who it is, they have no right to monitor everything a person does on their phones.
From banking to sending intimate messages and photos to my wife, ITS PRIVATE !!
12-05-2011, 06:58 PM #12
And i thought that by switching off all location etc. services i was more or less safe from data snooping. Most importantly, since i knew apple likes to snoop around, and i didn't like it very much, i got myself an android in a hope, that linux-based mobile will be safer in that particular matter. What a fking fool i was. Darth Wader's "noooo" shout was a whisper in comparison to my craziness that day.
I suddenly wished i had an iPhone... i don't give a fk about photos / music on my device.
Last edited by dennder; 12-05-2011 at 07:06 PM.PRAETORIANNI NONNUMQUAM IN PROELIO NUMQUAM IN BELLO SUPERANTUR
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12-06-2011, 01:31 AM #15
your phone number
active phone calls
(However, I only saw it noting that a phone call was active, not what number was dialed or it was received from. But, I am not going to claim it doesnít do that: itís certainly possible, but didnít see it.)
your location (Only, however, if Location Services are enabled.)
(Possibly more I havenít yet found.)
Not happy if they do log key presses, as like some one else said I do to use my idevices to do my banking & purchasing online.Apple are Control freaks we need to stop them before they take over the world!!
12-06-2011, 07:15 AM #16
12-06-2011, 07:40 PM #17
And from the research he did the iOS version, he did not find any keylogging.
12-07-2011, 06:42 AM #18Turn Carrier IQ off
CIQ can be turned off on the AT&T iPhone 4 with the ios4 or os5 operating system and I assume that the Verizon phone is the same. Settings>General>Diagnostics & Usage. I assume the Lawyers missed this bit of information.
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