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Originally Posted by lighter Colby glad you came around! Everyone else.. he apologized and even said.. he was having a crappy day... so relax... I wonder if this can be...
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Here are a few things to consider before getting all up in arms and trying to file a class action lawsuit just because you're in debt and you are bad at managing your money and need a way to pay off your credit cards:
A. Who really knows if Apple removed Carrier IQ from iOS 5.0 since it could just be a ploy to get people to upgrade and remove your jailbreak since as far as I know there are only beta untethered and tethered jailbreaks available but nothing really concrete.
B. Your contract gives your carrier the ability to analyze and store phone calls, text messages, and Internet usage for: diagnostic purposes and potential legal evidence if you're a criminal.
C. You haven't been harmed so you can't sue for anything. You didn't lose money, you didn't suffer physical harm, etc.
D. I GUARANTEE Carrier IQ is NOT storing your passwords, banking info, etc. because of the unnecessary need to do so and the potential legal implications of doing so as well as the obvious legal implications if they did and a hacker obtained access to it.
E. To anyone that says this violates your rights of privacy, it doesn't. What you do on your phone is your business since you own it. Once that crosses over into using their network, you no longer have a very strong claim. If you use their network to conduct your criminal activity then don't be surprised or upset if they (law enforcement with the aid of the network provider) used Carrier IQ to log your actions and track you and prosecute you.
All that being said, I don't like it and I'm going to scour the code on my phone to see if I can find a way to disable or remove it.
In the end, if you don't like it then don't use that phone or that network. It's a privilege not a right.
12-02-2011, 07:06 PM #28
this is interesting
this is the part I found most interesting
The U.S. Senate has taken an interest in the controversy. Information Week notes that "Carrier IQ has received a letter from the United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary. This committee has a number of roles, and the privacy issues raised in this matter would fall under Internet privacy and possibly federal criminal law. Senator Al Franken drafted the letter as he is chairman of the Subcommittee on Privacy, Technology and the Law."
The letter asks for detailed information on what the software does, and whether it records or transmits any information. Carrier IQ has not yet formally responded.
Breaking Federal Wiretap Laws?
Regardless of what the Senate's investigation concludes, the company may already be in violation of some federal laws. Former Justice Department official Paul Ohm, currently a law professor at the University of Colorado Law School, told Forbes, "If CarrierIQ has gotten the handset manufacturers to install secret software that records keystrokes intended for text messaging and the Internet and are sending some of that information back somewhere, this is very likely a federal wiretap. And that gives the people wiretapped the right to sue and provides for significant monetary damages."
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