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Originally Posted by NickFrey The legal issues are not because of "hacking". There is no hacking of Siri servers involved. The reason it's illegal is because they're taking files from
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickFrey View Post
    The legal issues are not because of "hacking". There is no hacking of Siri servers involved. The reason it's illegal is because they're taking files from the iPhone 4S that are copyrighted and redistributing them for other people, when only the 4S is licensed to use them. I highly doubt there would be enough people using the Siri port that would cause trouble for Apple.
    Agreed. I don't think they'll release the port since there will be illegal actions going on.

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    So why is it that the guys who made *******, potentially allowing millions to get pirated apps; not getting sued?It's the same concept, isn't it? If some one releases the guide or even an app explaining as to how siri gets ported, there shouldn't be much trouble. Especially if the dev releases it anonymously. ;D
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    Quote Originally Posted by eZStaR View Post
    So why is it that the guys who made App Sync, potentially allowing millions to get pirated apps; not getting sued?It's the same concept, isn't it? If some one releases the guide or even an app explaining as to how siri gets ported, there shouldn't be much trouble. Especially if the dev releases it anonymously. ;D
    If you want Siri that bad, then buy an iPhone 4S.

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    I think what Apple did is piracy, not people having to hack this. Siri was once an app, then they took it away, and now it is supported only on their newest and best device. Piracy is not only about people stealing from corporations, it should also be about corporations stealing from the people, as logic would dictate.

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    The people that have been jailbreaking the phones known this but not worried about the legal problems there. So not sure what the problem is with hacking a server. Just add to the list. Apple loves the jailbreak community. They sell more phones for them. Apple steals apps from them and adds to there new iOS. Then hires all the good jailbreakers. Win win for Apple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickFrey View Post
    The legal issues are not because of "hacking". There is no hacking of Siri servers involved. The reason it's illegal is because they're taking files from the iPhone 4S that are copyrighted and redistributing them for other people, when only the 4S is licensed to use them. I highly doubt there would be enough people using the Siri port that would cause trouble for Apple.
    For the sake of argument, it's still a hack. Through this hack/tweak/insert whatever you want here, "Siri servers" are officially talking only to the 4S. This is being circumvented and other devices that are "not supposed" to be talking to the servers are now talking to them. Don't normally correct people, but it seems you felt the need to correct someone else... At the end of the day legal issues are legal issues. Do the details really matter to the average user.
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    Exclamation Here is why i think Siri should be made available to all.
    I will give you few examples for ported apple software to other apple devices:
    Game Center on iPhone 3G - as you know it is not in the 3G firmware files, and yet part of the needed files are hosted in well known Cydia repos - no consequences whatsoever
    Nike+ on iPhone 3G - ported without any piracy consequences (used files from iPod 2G)
    Missing apps ported to iPad (1 and 2) - Clock, Weather, Stocks, Compass, Calculator - still no legal problems

    These examples went unpunished online, on non pirated repos and sites.

    Same should happen with Siri.

    One more thing, Siri is beta software, so many of the copyright rules can not be applied here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zero-limit View Post
    I will give you few examples for ported apple software to other apple devices:
    Game Center on iPhone 3G - as you know it is not in the 3G firmware files, and yet part of the needed files are hosted in well known Cydia repos - no consequences whatsoever
    Nike+ on iPhone 3G - ported without any piracy consequences (used files from iPod 2G)
    Missing apps ported to iPad (1 and 2) - Clock, Weather, Stocks, Compass, Calculator - still no legal problems

    These examples went unpunished online, on non pirated repos and sites.

    Same should happen with Siri.

    One more thing, Siri is beta software, so many of the copyright rules can not be applied here.
    Also you forgot Facetime on iPad 1 & iPhone 3GS.. This had a fine tut, even an installer + uploaded on some repos .. I didn't see no lawsuit!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zero-limit View Post
    I will give you few examples for ported apple software to other apple devices:
    Game Center on iPhone 3G - as you know it is not in the 3G firmware files, and yet part of the needed files are hosted in well known Cydia repos - no consequences whatsoever
    Nike+ on iPhone 3G - ported without any piracy consequences (used files from iPod 2G)
    Missing apps ported to iPad (1 and 2) - Clock, Weather, Stocks, Compass, Calculator - still no legal problems

    These examples went unpunished online, on non pirated repos and sites.

    Same should happen with Siri.

    One more thing, Siri is beta software, so many of the copyright rules can not be applied here.
    On the other side of the coin, Apple has nothing but to gain from those features being ported. With Siri, more of Apple's resources are being used without really any potential added profit. Also, all of your examples SEEM to me to be cases where Apple would have the legal grounds to shut these things down, but they choose not to since it may not be a big enough problem. Just a guess on that latter statement.
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    I understand the devs don't want to get in trouble, but piracy isn't going to stop users of the jailbreak community. It's a JAILBREAK community. We pretty much have the definition of "F the police" in our name. lol c'mon son.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nest View Post
    I understand the devs don't want to get in trouble, but piracy isn't going to stop users of the jailbreak community. It's a JAILBREAK community. We pretty much have the definition of "F the police" in our name. lol c'mon son.
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    true that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nest View Post
    I understand the devs don't want to get in trouble, but piracy isn't going to stop users of the jailbreak community. It's a JAILBREAK community. We pretty much have the definition of "F the police" in our name. lol c'mon son.
    You obviously dont understand what Jailbreaking is for.

    I suggest you stop doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by confucious View Post
    You obviously dont understand what Jailbreaking is for.

    I suggest you stop doing it.
    You mean jailbreaking wasn't created to cater to my needs and wants for free software? Oh man, I have been living a lie all this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nest View Post
    I understand the devs don't want to get in trouble, but piracy isn't going to stop users of the jailbreak community. It's a JAILBREAK community. We pretty much have the definition of "F the police" in our name. lol c'mon son.
    That is right... it is a jailbreak community and nothing else. And I am so glad that you are so proud to mention that you have that definition in your name however many people don't. Please come down to reality and act like a real person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleNerd View Post
    The current state of the port is exactly what the previous state of the port (as reported here on modmyi) was, except that the server issue was worked around and a video was shown of it working.

    Therefore, if you believe the current state of the port is a publicity stunt, certainly the previous state of the port (as reported here on modmyi) was a publicity stunt as well.
    I find this to be a funny smack down of both articles. And the irony that a dev team member had to come and clear up the status of this is great. The OP was tl;dr after about three lines when we are mostly just looking for what Musclenerd just said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramicio View Post
    I think what Apple did is piracy, not people having to hack this. Siri was once an app, then they took it away, and now it is supported only on their newest and best device. Piracy is not only about people stealing from corporations, it should also be about corporations stealing from the people, as logic would dictate.
    I agree 100%. I had the app it wasn't that good but it could have been made better.

    Quote Originally Posted by zero-limit View Post
    I will give you few examples for ported apple software to other apple devices:
    Game Center on iPhone 3G - as you know it is not in the 3G firmware files, and yet part of the needed files are hosted in well known Cydia repos - no consequences whatsoever
    Nike+ on iPhone 3G - ported without any piracy consequences (used files from iPod 2G)
    Missing apps ported to iPad (1 and 2) - Clock, Weather, Stocks, Compass, Calculator - still no legal problems

    These examples went unpunished online, on non pirated repos and sites.

    Same should happen with Siri.

    One more thing, Siri is beta software, so many of the copyright rules can not be applied here.
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    Meh i just want my iPhone 4S Jailbreak please :-)i used Siri once and thats it who cares about voice control its cool but i dont care for itwhat i do care for is having my iPhone 4S jailbroken so i can get my Free Apps which is why people jailbreak they wants free shitz ...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by sziklassy View Post
    You mean jailbreaking wasn't created to cater to my needs and wants for free software? Oh man, I have been living a lie all this time.
    No it was not created so you can have free software..... however if you want FREE software there is a ton of it in the app store. If you need any help I would be more than glad to direct you to the right places.

    Quote Originally Posted by sheon View Post
    Meh i just want my iPhone 4S Jailbreak please :-)i used Siri once and thats it who cares about voice control its cool but i dont care for itwhat i do care for is having my iPhone 4S jailbroken so i can get my Free Apps which is why people jailbreak they wants free shitz ...........
    Here ya go sweetie all of the free apps you could ever want! faad

    Quote Originally Posted by R.Mortera View Post
    If you want Siri that bad, then buy an iPhone 4S.
    What a great statement! Thank you so very much!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetoothfairy View Post
    That is right... it is a jailbreak community and nothing else. And I am so glad that you are so proud to mention that you have that definition in your name however many people don't. Please come down to reality and act like a real person.
    Act like a real person or act like you? I am acting like a real person. I'm being myself. Do you act like a moderator in real life? I apologize for posting about piracy and the warning was a fair judgement. That was my mistake. But telling me to "act like a real person" after telling me that my definition of a jailbreak community is flawed is ironic. Many people don't have your definition of "a real person" in their name. Sound familiar?
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