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10-07-2011, 04:35 PM #21
Well I can say AT&T's true 4g phones only say H+ currently. I'm guessing they will say 4g when the time comes. That would be false advertising if they say 4g IMO. It's 3.5g.
10-07-2011, 04:38 PM #22
It's kind of funny though, since AT&T actually complained about TMobile marketing HSPA+ as 4G. Then the ITU said HSPA+ could be considered 4G, so AT&T is marketing it as such. If the organization that defines 4G considers it 4G, why don't you?
10-07-2011, 04:40 PM #23
10-07-2011, 05:36 PM #24
4G technologies such as mobile WiMAX and first-release Long term evolution (LTE) have been on the market since 2006 and 2009 respectively. The ITU announced in December 2010 that WiMax, LTE, and HSPA+ are 4G technologies.
10-07-2011, 05:39 PM #25
It'd be a lie to say that it's a 4G device. It's just a super-boosted 3G device that only works on AT&T service. If it was really 4G, then it might work (and should be made to) work with Verizon and Sprint's 4G networks.
10-07-2011, 05:50 PM #26
So when phones actually reach "true 4G" speeds they are going to call it 5G or 6G since we are getting ahead of ourselves.
AT&T: "We now have Super 8G x times 2 quad speed! Only on the nation's most lyingest network!"
10-07-2011, 06:34 PM #27
10-07-2011, 07:28 PM #28
Can't wait for the sprint and Verizon commercials, when they rip into Att about there fake 4g speed
10-07-2011, 08:00 PM #29
ITU say 4G should give you a minimum of 1Gbps downlink.
ITU own the phrase 4G and 3G so i'm going by what they call 4G.
10-07-2011, 08:13 PM #30
when it comes down to it.... just make sure the data runs smoothly and quickly. I don't care what you call it.
10-07-2011, 08:26 PM #31
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10-07-2011, 08:38 PM #32
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10-07-2011, 08:45 PM #33
WiMAX has been discontinued and replaced by WiMAN-A but that is not functioning yet (lab test aren't even working).
LTE is 3.75G and LTE-Advanced is 4G it will be released when it gives 1Gbps downlink and 500Mbps uplink simultaneously.
10-07-2011, 08:53 PM #34
Too bad if they have not updated their networks to support 4g. It's irrelevant that they've "tweaked" 3g to be comparable to the "current" 4g... but what happens when 4g is tweaked to be significantly faster than AT&T's current "3g"?
If they do it they will see the a landslide of lawsuits that will make them wish they hadn't ever tried to deceive.
10-07-2011, 09:03 PM #35
Thanks professor can I have my quiz now.
QUOTE=Azulfuego;6260409]4G = 4 generation? So if dual band is AT&T's 4th gen what is wrong with calling it 4g? If the speeds were not comparable I would def be saying "FOUL" but the speed is there and it is in a way a 4th generation. At the end of the day the speed is there what does it matter? Waste of time and print.
The first wireless cellular systems (1G) started appearing in the 1980s. 1G networks are based on the AMPS (Advanced Mobile Phone Service) standard. Unlike their predecessor wireless networks, 1G networks are based on the idea of cells. 1G networks provide analog voice service but no data service. 1G was analog, not digital. The spectral efficiency of 1G networks was very low and the effective "energy/bit" was high. Handsets had short talk/standby times.
2G wireless networks are digital networks (for spectral efficiency and not for digital services). There are several 2G standards in use:
TDMA (Time Division Multiple Access). Used primarily in the USA.
GSM (Global System for Mobile Communications). Widely used in Europe and countries other than USA, now appearing in the USA.
CDMA (Code Division Multiple Access). Used in USA and its use is spreading in the rest of the world.
PDC (Personal Digital Cellular). Used only in Japan where iMode uses packet switched PDC.
Some characteristics of 2G networks are:
Maximum data rates of 9.6 Kbits/second to 14.4 Kbits/second if you are in just the right place.
Digital voice (results in a lower quality voice but uses less precious spectrum).
Enhanced telephony features such as caller-id.
Services such as text based messaging (big winner), downloads of still images and audio clips, etc.
2.5G (Between 2G and 3G)
2.5G networks, which are still not available everywhere, are essentially General Packet Radio Service (GPRS) packet overlays on 2G networks. Besides enhancing GSM and TDMA networks by making them packet-based networks, GPRS also increases their data rates. GPRS is primarily a software upgrade of GSM. Some characteristics of 2.5G networks are:
Data rates of 64 - 144kb/second.
Instant messaging with small attachments.
A new wireless standard, Enhanced Data GSM Environment (EDGE), has been developed to increase the bandwidth of GPRS. EDGE triples the bandwidth capacity of GPRS to 384 Kbits/second thus allowing GSM and TDMA operators to offer high-speed services. EDGE based networks fall in between 2.5G and 3G networks.
3G is the third (next) generation of wireless network technology that provides high speed bandwidth (high data transfer rates) to handheld devices. Specifically, 3G wireless networks support the following maximum data transfer rates:
2.05 Mbits/second to stationary devices.
384 Kbits/second for slowly moving devices, such as a handset carried by a walking user.
128 Kbits/second for fast moving devices, such as handsets in moving vehicles.
With such high bandwidth rates, 3G networks will be able to offer a variety of new services that combine high voice quality telephony, high-speed mobile IP services, information technology, rich media, and offer diverse content. What Came Before 3G? 3G wireless networks represent an evolution of wireless network technology, and were preceded by 1G, 2G, and 2.5G wireless networks.[/QUOTE]
10-07-2011, 09:33 PM #36
This isn't even close to 4G, LTE isn't 4G either, there not even close. 4G qualifies as anything above 100mbit/s. This is 14.4mbit/s and LTE that currently exists isn't even close to 4G. I find it amazing that in America, carriers and phone makers are not being stopped by the FCC or anyone from lying and saying this is 4G. You do realise this doesn't happen anywhere else?
10-07-2011, 10:14 PM #37
10-07-2011, 10:22 PM #38
10-08-2011, 12:12 AM #39
I would like to see an H+ instead of 3G when I am running the faster network, just to let me know.
10-08-2011, 03:53 AM #40