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09-29-2011, 04:30 PM #21
2011 = Iphone 4S
2012 = Iphone 5.
09-29-2011, 04:51 PM #22
At the end of the day, your phones internet speed is only as good as your mobile carrier provides.
[btw when I say the word 'you' I'm not directing it at Poseidon79, but at anyone who is gaga for "4G']
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09-29-2011, 05:01 PM #23
I doubt data cap will disappear. You know how greedy these companies are.
09-29-2011, 06:23 PM #24
I hope Apple has found a way around the horrible battery life of 4G.
09-29-2011, 06:39 PM #25
09-29-2011, 06:59 PM #26
09-30-2011, 07:30 AM #27
The ITU, which defines network generations, considers HSPA+ as 4G. I think their opinion matters more than yours.
09-30-2011, 08:55 AM #28
Is this picture even accurate, Its states that the iphone 3g, 3gs uses WCDMA for its 3g technology, apple didn't make a wcdma version of the iphone till they released iphone 4. Also I never heard of a company that uses both CDMA (what verzion uses) and Hspa (What at&t uses). It may be dif in other countries.
09-30-2011, 10:59 AM #29
The International Telecommunications Union has expanded its definition of 4G service to include WiMax, LTE and HSPA+. This decision comes a couple of months after T-Mobile and Sprint had started calling their respective HSPA+ and WiMax offerings 4G in advertisements.
Under the old definition, only WiMax2 and LTE-Advanced were qualified to be called 4G networks. It is possible that the ITU took notice of the bickering amonst the top U.S. carriers and decided to make the change.
09-30-2011, 11:35 AM #30
Why can't I reply without quoting someone? I'm sure no love for AWS will come.
09-30-2011, 03:22 PM #31
Originally Posted by feidhlim1986
EDGE meets the International Telecommunications Union's requirement for a 3G network, and has been accepted by the ITU as part of the IMT-2000 family of 3G standards.
Originally Posted by feidhlim1986
On a side note, my relatively small town has rolled out HSPA+ so I really, really hope that the next iPhone supports it.
09-30-2011, 05:18 PM #32
Frankly I wouldn't take much notice of what the ITU says. They don't actually define the standards in question. It's the 3GPP and IEEE that created and defined the standards we're talking about going all the way back to GSM. I don't see where the ITU actually have come up with any standards, they just seem to label things what they feel like.So like I've said already, EDGE is a 2G tech as stated by those who created and defined the standard, and HSPA+ is a 3G tech as stated by those who created and defined the standard.I'll go with the authority that actually came up, with and defined the standards rather than the ITU
09-30-2011, 07:20 PM #33
Just so anyone else reading this understands what we're referring to:
The 3rd Generation Partnership Project (3GPP) is a collaboration between groups of telecommunications associations, known as the Organizational Partners. The initial scope of 3GPP was to make a globally applicable third-generation (3G) mobile phone system specification based on evolved Global System for Mobile Communications (GSM) specifications within the scope of the International Mobile Telecommunications-2000 project of the International Telecommunication Union (ITU).
ITU gives a recommendation on technology, and relies on standardizing bodies such as 3GPP to create a standard (in this case, the standard is LTE Advanced, not 4G). The ITU then approves certain candidates for inclusion as a 4G technology. 3GPP, for instance, submitted their proposal for the LTE Advanced to the ITU for inclusion as a defined 4G candidate.
While HSPA+, LTE, and WiMAX do not fit the IMT-Advanced definition of 4G, ITU still accepted them as part of the 4G standard for reasons discussed previously. Just because they were not formally submitted for inclusion by their standardizing bodies doesn't mean they aren't 4G. But I see what you're saying.
09-30-2011, 08:53 PM #34