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09-22-2011, 12:38 PM #21
I enjoy your philosophy Mes lol (no sarcasm, for real!) It's true though, I secretly hope Sprint wins the fight in keeping AT&T from acquiring T-Mobile. I plan to switch back to T-Mobile eventually if it ever gets the iPhone (hopefully when my VZW contract is near ending). Switching quick before the unlimited data ends for T-Mo too lol.
09-22-2011, 01:18 PM #22
But idk if you know this but AT&T now as unlimited mobile to mobile on any carrier so I switched my 900
Minute plan from 900 to 450 a month.. Which I really don't use either since all I do is text my life away!! But yeah any who this change is saving me about $30 a month now..
You should look into it if you havnt already..
09-22-2011, 01:45 PM #23
Good point about bandwidth Mes. Realize though that T-Mobile is at HSPA+ right now with no intensions or plans to go to LTE due to the fact that they have the smallest slice of bandwidth of any US carrier and couldn't handle the throughput of real 4G if it was given to them for free. Unless the governments opens up more bandwidth T-Mobile is as far as they will ever go with technology and is better off being merged.
09-22-2011, 01:46 PM #24
I once prayed to God for an iPhone, but quickly found out He didn't work that way...so I stole an iPhone and prayed for His forgiveness.
A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than you love yourself. - Josh Billings
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09-22-2011, 02:48 PM #26
Spectrum and bandwidth are directly related. You can think about the amount of Spectrum you have to be 100% of your bandwidth which as you said can go up or down on an individual basis depending on signal strength and tower density. At the end of the day though the carrier with the most spectrum Hz can handle more bits and bytes through their system with a larger maximum overall bandwidth for all users combine. T-Mobile doesn't have a big enough slice of the pie to give people 44Mbs on their devices.
09-22-2011, 02:53 PM #27
Mobile bandwidth to tower bandwidth is wireless. Tower bandwidth to Internet is via landline. More towers increase available mobile to tower bandwidth. More towers slices the pie into smaller chunks and increases overall mobile to tower bandwidth. Tower to Internet is unlimited. If I'm wrong ... What am I missing?
09-22-2011, 03:00 PM #28
I'm speaking strictly wireless. (phone to tower... once it hits the tower it's land line and virtually unlimited) Each phone on a carrier operates within a certain radio frequency range... AT&T, Verizon and Sprint each have a lot more spectrum range to offer their handsets. Think about 100,000 phones on AT&T each on full blown LTE all downloading at full capacity off the same tower (or sets of towers).... AT&T has more much more spectrum and thus more radio channels to route this data than T-Mobile would in the same situation.
09-22-2011, 03:02 PM #29
I can go for that. So we're both right.
More spectrum increases bandwidth. More towers also increases bandwidth.
Bandwidth :: having different meanings - spectrum .vs. user data
IE: All else being the same, within a given area more towers will support more uses at the same data rate.
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09-22-2011, 05:01 PM #30
I don't get it!!! with all of these android phones out there, these companies have no problem offering unlimiated data plans but as soon as iphone is introduced, then all bets are off.....WHY? are you telling me that android users don't surf the net as much as iphone users? very....very...strange!!!!! but I knew it!! at least Sprint aren't screwing over new customer with the bait and switch like Verizon did. I guess I'll stick with my t-mobile after all......and the iphone curse continues!!!!! in the future when the iphone hits t-mobile, you can be sure that all of that unlimited crap is going out the window. If I was an android phone user and had true unlimited data plan, I would be pissed at apple like there's no tomorrow. Iphone is truly ruining it for android users.
09-22-2011, 05:06 PM #31
Perhaps it's jailbreaking and tethering that's causing this. it's not the iPhone ruining it I think, I feel it's the data hogs
09-22-2011, 05:08 PM #32
Yeaaaaa I agree. Jailbreaking make this beast fun. A stock iPhone is sooooo boring LOL
09-22-2011, 05:13 PM #33
iPhone ruining it for android users? Let's not forget that without iPhone, there would be no such thing as android...
And yes, iOS users DO surf the web A LOT more than android users. But I agree with i.Annie, I think it is the data hogs that either get greedy, or use the iPhone as their home ISP. Not that I am completely against that, but wireless companies just can't handle the crazy amount of data that your Cable/DSL connection can. I have no issue with them limiting data.
The iPhone is MOBILE WEB. not a personal ISP.
09-22-2011, 05:13 PM #34
Whoa there Mes, ease off the sugar lol
09-22-2011, 05:13 PM #35
I am so sick of and frustrated with these companies... nothing like sticking it up our you know whats?
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09-22-2011, 05:21 PM #40
Just my theory. It's silly how each company just completely starts killing services and plans upon the arrival of the iPhone lol.