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06-11-2011, 05:04 PM #21
Here is why turning your phone off doesn't matter nor does airplane mode. The cheapo car stereo in your car has RF shielding as do your plug wires in your engine. What that means is that since things like those have it then you know for sure airplanes have it all over the wires. I know this because this myth has been disproved over and over again through many sources(tv, science research, airlines, etc.).
300 cell phones being on still don't have enough power to affect an airplane or the way it flies. The reason they ask you to turn your phone off is for other reasons but the biggest 2 are terrorism and emergency reasons in case they need to have everyone's complete attention. Let's be honest though, we know there's quite a few persons that don't really turn it off. They just put it in their pocket when they see the flight attendant coming.
Furthermore, some airlines now offer WiFi. Where do you think that signal is coming from? If cell phones were able to mess up instruments with their radio waves then why would they even think to imenent a feature like that?
Last edited by alexevo; 06-11-2011 at 05:07 PM.
06-11-2011, 05:17 PM #22
FYI: The aviation industry is one of the fastest growing markets worldwide for the iPad with Medicine being the fastest! Ground Crew, Mechanics, Pilots, and Flight Crew are ALL using them!
SO - I guess that would put Flight Medics in TWO categories!
Granted there was no such thing as an iPad when I was flying (even before the iPhone), but we did have cell phones, radios, and even BB's. We even tested some of the first ever tablets in the air. In all of my years flying, we never turned off an electronic device.
Before you say "medical aircraft are different", try again! Frequently we would dead-head from one base to another on commercial airlines. As flight crew it was not uncommon for us to have to jump-seat in the cockpit of the 'big' commercial airplanes. Yes, even post 911 when you thought no one but the pilots could be up there. Never once did I ever see a pilot turn off their phone. Most would have it plugged in so it would charge. On more than one occasion you would hear it vibrating (ringer off) on the: ground, active runway, during takeoff, and during flight.
Flying our own aircraft (with and without patients) we would use the phone all across the country, including into Mexico and Canada. Over the Caribbean it was a bit spotty, but everywhere else it it worked most of the time.
As for the comment regarding Europe. My cousin flies for one of the largest European carries so we laugh about this 'antiquated rule' all the time. The ONLY reason the ban is still active is because people on PED's are unable to follow basic emergency commands AND considering most emergencies occur during the 'transition phases' of flight (Take-off, landing), the flight crew needs your FULL ATTENTION. As for not using it 'during the flight'... See: "Cell Phone Carrier Bottom Line". It's one way they can limit the amount of minutes people use!
06-11-2011, 05:22 PM #23
I have never not had them ask to turn them off and I use an iPad & iPhone.
It should be off during take off's and landing's and in airplane mode at altitude.
06-11-2011, 05:33 PM #24Winning a fight on the internet is like winning a medal in the Special Olympics.
At the end of the day, you're still a retard.
06-11-2011, 05:57 PM #25
I've never flown once In my life, but if I did, I would most likely put my iPad/cell phone into lock/sleep mode. What they don't know can't hurt me
06-11-2011, 06:01 PM #26
If there is the slightest chance that any device I have, might affect any of the planes electronics then I will do anything to keep me airborne. Anything that saves me from crashing in the large metal box, that really should not be in the air in the first place.
Why would anyone take the chance?
06-11-2011, 07:15 PM #27
06-11-2011, 07:30 PM #28
I think that's why it is called "Airplane Mode"
06-11-2011, 07:38 PM #29
06-11-2011, 07:56 PM #30
Also here's something else which nobody seems to have remembered. Just recently the FAA has approved for flight pilots to use iPads as replacements paper maps (It was even mentioned by Steve Jobs in his opening keynote of WWDC). Now I am not saying that the FAA should be trusted completely but I think they probably performed a bit of research themselves and if the pilots, who are sitting RIGHT NEXT to the damn instruments, are allowed to use them, then so can I damn it.
06-11-2011, 09:24 PM #31
So cell phones ONLY cause interference to airplanes? Not cars, not buildings, not mainframes, not home computers... JUST airplanes? Give me a break.
06-11-2011, 09:52 PM #32
PDAs, Blackberries, iPhones, iPads, etc may or may nor be the real interference problem. But why play games? Why play around with fire? Is your safety, or the safety of your fellow passengers important? Nothing is so important is can't wait.
06-11-2011, 11:12 PM #33
So many typos...
06-11-2011, 11:20 PM #34
I'm a pilot, do i think iPads (considering there FAA certified now) iphones, etc effect the planes controls.
Hydraulics have nothing to do with radio.
Is it possible a cell phone can effect radio communications, yes but at the same time, you got a 100 cell towers below the plane blasting the plane with radiowaves at the same time so you chose. 2 Watt cell phone vs plane, or 100KW tower vs plane,
06-12-2011, 12:35 AM #35
I've been asked to turn off my iPhone on all flights. I always say it's on airplane mode and always gets the same answer Please turn it all the way off. I think it's got to do with them worried about someone using it as a remote device to control a bomb or something like that. Who really knows. What the heck. anyway thats my two cents So yes I turn it off. Then become very board.
06-12-2011, 12:40 AM #36
06-12-2011, 12:55 AM #37
My jab requires me to travel 90% so no...I just put it in airplane mode along with my iPad.
06-12-2011, 01:46 AM #38
06-12-2011, 02:09 AM #39
I don't fly, I take the train or drive, so no, I don't
06-12-2011, 09:44 AM #40
"However, there is no way to verify if the electronic disturbances were the directly caused by cell phones and electronic devices on the plain, a point stressed in the report."
hey buddy! it might help if you spelled "plane" correctly!