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05-12-2011, 10:30 AM #41
05-12-2011, 05:27 PM #42HK-Z™ on Game Center
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05-12-2011, 06:50 PM #44
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05-12-2011, 08:10 PM #45
I guess some people still believe that driving is a birth right.
05-12-2011, 08:32 PM #46
Just in case you missed it..
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Where is the probable cause in randomly picking cars driving through a checkpoin?
11 states do not allow roadside checkpoints because of the fact that they are illegal according to the constitution. The states that do allow them say that there is a DUI exception to the constitution. Much as I look, I can't find it in there though. Wonder what will be next in the name of public safety?
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05-12-2011, 09:29 PM #47
05-13-2011, 01:07 AM #48
05-13-2011, 10:31 AM #49HK-Z™ on Game Center
05-13-2011, 01:49 PM #50
I agree with you about marijuana laws. However, I don't consider red light tickets a victimless issue. People run red lights nonstop an many accidents happen as a result of it (though I do believe the use of cameras to mail such tickets is not legal).
05-13-2011, 02:58 PM #51
Driving is traveling, therefore it IS a birth right. Not every city in the world has public transportation infrastructures in place.
Traffic tickets from cameras are BS. A lot of the times the police give you a break on stuff anyway...because they are there, and they are human, so they can understand certain circumstances.
Screening at the airport has proven to do NOTHING.
Bad stuff is never going to stop happening. Invading everyone's rights and privacy is proven to do nothing but make things worse. Time after time it's been proven throughout history that 100% freedom with consequences wins. This world is turning into punishing thought crime and pre-crime. Freedom to do stuff and learn from mistakes is what makes intelligence. Take that away and humanity just turns into drones.
05-14-2011, 05:43 PM #52HK-Z™ on Game Center
05-14-2011, 10:39 PM #53
Why don't we get rid of speed limits, people break them all the time.
As long as you demand a 100% success rate in order for you to view it as successful you'll never be satisfied.
Let's get rid of border patrols, INS, and passports because they all inhibit what you call "the human right of free travel."
05-15-2011, 06:23 AM #54
Don't get me wrong, people who drive drunk are chemically retarded and should not be driving. But we know that already, don't we? Do we really need Harry Reid or any other Government law to tell us that? These laws are not made for our safety, they are made to generate revenue. Can you honestly say that by not wearing my seatbelt, I am a danger to society? If anything I might be inclined to drive better knowing I might die if I rear end somebody because I didn't have my belt on.
The Government has no place or right to protect us from ourselves!
I ask my fellow citizens this question:
if safety is the purpose of these checkpoints, why not have an officer standby at the local pub and offer (not force) breathalyzer and assist those people who fail, in getting home safely. Be it in a cab or giving them a ride home without fear of prosecution?
05-15-2011, 05:19 PM #55
Just one little baby step at a time embraced by people like Mortipher.
INDIANAPOLIS | Overturning a common law dating back to the English Magna Carta of 1215, the Indiana Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Hoosiers have no right to resist unlawful police entry into their homes.
In a 3-2 decision, Justice Steven David writing for the court said if a police officer wants to enter a home for any reason or no reason at all, a homeowner cannot do anything to block the officer's entry.
"We believe ... a right to resist an unlawful police entry into a home is against public policy and is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence," David said. "We also find that allowing resistance unnecessarily escalates the level of violence and therefore the risk of injuries to all parties involved without preventing the arrest."
David said a person arrested following an unlawful entry by police still can be released on bail and has plenty of opportunities to protest the illegal entry through the court system.
The court's decision stems from a Vanderburgh County case in which police were called to investigate a husband and wife arguing outside their apartment.
When the couple went back inside their apartment, the husband told police they were not needed and blocked the doorway so they could not enter. When an officer entered anyway, the husband shoved the officer against a wall. A second officer then used a stun gun on the husband and arrested him.
Professor Ivan Bodensteiner, of Valparaiso University School of Law, said the court's decision is consistent with the idea of preventing violence.
"It's not surprising that they would say there's no right to beat the hell out of the officer," Bodensteiner said. "(The court is saying) we would rather opt on the side of saying if the police act wrongfully in entering your house your remedy is under law, to bring a civil action against the officer."
Justice Robert Rucker, a Gary native, and Justice Brent Dickson, a Hobart native, dissented from the ruling, saying the court's decision runs afoul of the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
"In my view the majority sweeps with far too broad a brush by essentially telling Indiana citizens that government agents may now enter their homes illegally -- that is, without the necessity of a warrant, consent or exigent circumstances," Rucker said. "I disagree."
05-16-2011, 01:02 PM #56
05-16-2011, 02:45 PM #57
People who think the molestation of people are airports is right are the kind of people who have no shame whatsoever. They would walk around naked all the time if the law allowed it. They inappropriately touch others and don't care if others touch them. They are open to all kinds of liberal garbage. They don't realize people's bodies are something to be kept private. I don't even agree with a lot of stuff that doctors do on a daily basis. The medical system are a bunch of perverts, and it's conditioning. Hernia exams by touching the balls? Gimme a break. There's are other ways. Same thing with prostate exams, gynos, etc. All just conditioning to get people to not consider their bodies their own and a private thing.
05-16-2011, 04:49 PM #58
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