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Originally Posted by Poseidon79 Y'all really need to do some research on Sprint's 4G WIMAX, Verizon's LTE, and AT&T's LTE networks. Real world tests don't show much speed increase if...
03-30-2011, 07:21 AM #61
03-30-2011, 08:50 AM #62
First of all it's Thunderbolt or Light Peak technology. The symbol Apple uses is a lightning bolt haha. Second.. Apple and Intel co-developed this technology so it only made sense for Apple to be a pioneer in introducing this in their new products. Apple is at the mercy of the carriers in this case to deploy LTE. Apple would be foolish to spend the money on LTE components that will not be utilized in 90% of the market. More proof I really DON'T want my iPhone to be "4G" yet.
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Here.. ya might want to brush up on this too.
Last edited by Poseidon79; 03-30-2011 at 10:16 AM.
03-30-2011, 12:31 PM #63
It'd be a bad business strategy and cost and resource strategy to be waiting just so that they could have the iphone be on a 4G network.
Like with the first iphone and the iphone 3G, apple would want to make a cutting edge iphone with nice features and then a year later release the same exact phone with maybe a slightly different look and 4G enabled. That way, they won't have to put resources into making new features and they could save those features for the year later and keep getting people to cough up money to buy the next generation device (since obviously no matter what it is the old version is never good enough).
I would find a decision to delay the iphone until the fall surprising and a decision to delay the iphone so that it could have a 4G network even more surprising.
03-30-2011, 01:01 PM #64
Why is AT&T having so many problems with implementing their 4G network?
03-30-2011, 04:30 PM #65
03-30-2011, 05:44 PM #66
2. Also, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't the iPhone 3gs capable of handling 7.2 mbps even though at&t didnt support it yet? So wouldn't it be plausible for Apple to roll it out in the fall.
3. Also, what about Verizon? Verizon will be available in 145 metro areas by the end of 2011... While Verizon will be most prepared at the end of 2013, it will have a decent network by the end of 2011...
4. Wouldn't 2013 or 2014 (iPhone 2g anyone?) make the most sense? If I'm wrong, which is possible, wouldn't 2012 make no sense either? The networks would be most prepared in 2013-2014, not this year or next year...
Last edited by y0ungSir; 03-30-2011 at 05:46 PM.
03-31-2011, 04:56 AM #67
i just hope they fix the drop calls
03-31-2011, 05:31 AM #68
It's just rumors
03-31-2011, 06:59 AM #69
yea i dont mine waited just get us some 4g lte apple
03-31-2011, 01:48 PM #70
A few points to look at:
1. First gen iPhone - EDGE based (Apple cited battery life concerns as to why they used it) while 3G tech was still standard however at the same time 4G technologies were being implemented and tested.
2. iPhone 3G - Yay 3g is here and the public are not happy still because it has 3G instead of 3G+ (HSPA+)
3. iPhone 3GS - Yay we now have 3G+ (HSPA+) and no network support for it (AT&T/Cingular claim the up network updates yet i have yet to see the 3G+ symbol on my phone and i have been coast to cost since getting my 3GS) yet Sprint is now rolling out their 4G implementation under the name Clear.
4. iPhone 4 - Still HSPA+ 4G tech still rolling out yet not a damn person is complaining that i4 is out of date and behind and yet most of us Americans don't realize that the rest of the world had better implementation of the 4G networks globally (yes people America is a bit behind in the cellular tech race get over it).
5. Last AT&T is buying the largest 4G network owner T-Mobile or at least put a bin in for it. That is also why they are changing their name back to Cingular.
So in conclusion why would crapple put a new battery eating, unsupported, and rush job chip into their phone? They won;t they will wait give us what we want later. rather than sooner it will allow them to give us what we want at a later date and give us the chance to re buy the same slightly redesigned product yet again. They also wont upset that precious 11-13 month release schedule. 4G out on iPhone 5 and HSPA+ is in. Get Over It.
03-31-2011, 02:12 PM #71
2. You are correct about the 3GS implementing 7.2Mbps when it wasn't widely available; however, it is still the same type of overall technology which just meant a minor spec bump... not a completely different chip set to integrate next generation protocols that are much father out than 7.2Mbps was at that time.
3. Verizon is father along in their LTE deployment than AT&T however if teh merger with T-Mobile goes through they will be neck and neck. It really wouldn't make sense to introduce a CDMA iPhone 5 only a few months after the iPhone 4 was launched on Verizon. I just don't see them launching AT&T and Verizon models at the same time due to manufacturing constraints.
4. Your last argument is 100% valid and supports exactly what I'm saying. Why push a product that won't work in 90% of the market when launched. The same people begging for 4G will be the first to complain about the crappy coverage and slow data transfer speeds.
03-31-2011, 02:30 PM #72
It is interesting that Poseidon79 typed teh instead of the on point 3 - one mistake I often make.
It is also noticeable that he seems to be the only one talking sense in this thread....He who asks a question looks foolish for 5 minutes. He who doesn't ask a question remains foolish forever.
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03-31-2011, 10:00 PM #73
The iPhone 5 will be some clever way to patch limera1n or the like.
04-01-2011, 01:09 AM #74
I had the inspire 4g on att for 3 days and was happy with my so called "4g" since i live in and area with great coverage (im sure some people think this doesnt exist on ATT )
But the batterylife was crap an it had to go.
I would think and hope that apple sits it out until there is actually a "4g" network and a good way to preserve battery with a "4g" antenna.
Honestly people, is there a NEED to upgrade from the iphone 4 right now??
Last edited by iFrosty; 04-01-2011 at 01:11 AM. Reason: Grammer
04-01-2011, 06:56 AM #75
i believe that apple can make the next iphone seem like an actual next generation iphone within the time span they have , they could release it late summer its possible with apple