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03-18-2011, 11:31 AM #21
I am so over this story..
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03-18-2011, 11:45 AM #22
In all reality it doesn't matter how secure NFC on your iPhone is, or how safe you keep your credit card. By law it is the financial institution's responsibility for fraud not the consumer's. If NFC was as insecure as an unlocked glass door, then it'd be inconvenient while disputing the charge, but in the end the consumer would still come out with only minimal damage (time spent on the phone reporting, and talking to cops, plus locked funds for a business week)
I've had a credit card out right stolen (data not physically) and it took all of 3 days to get my money back, plus a new card, plus an apology from my card issuer for the inconvenience. Same would go for NFC.
The only thing I'm worried about is how Apple will treat JBing once your phone becomes a financial tool. Right now Square/etc are third party so it's up to them to decide if their app will allow itself to run on a JB'd device. Once financial tools are built in by Apple, they may crack down like Sony at a DEFCON-FBIRyuJin
03-18-2011, 11:54 AM #23
[QUOTE=fbiryujin;5901737]Are they really going to release the iPhone 5 only a few months after VZW got the iPhone 4? That would be spitting in the face of every person who bought the VZW iPhone.
Yes Apple would do that... its been proven here in Canada with the iphone 3gs. Multiple carriers got it once their exclusivity ended with Rogers ended ... and all of a sudden they brought out the iPhone 4's... so it happens.. and Apple would not stop their refresh cycle just because Verizon got the i4... maybe their refresh cycle will be different...
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03-18-2011, 11:55 AM #24
After you scan your iPhone, it should scan you eye (pupil) using the front camera. That would make it much more secure.
03-18-2011, 11:56 AM #25
Well Verizon users should have known this was going to happen. From what i knew ATT had a 5 yr deal on the iphone that ended in 2012, maybe Apple didnt have to pay the full amt owed to att for releasing the iphone 2 yrs early to verizon with the condition to release it 6 months after ATT had it. This is also why Verizon has the unlimited data right now to entice its customers to upgrade NOW not in a few months when they may get a new phone. OR if Verizon wants to be cool about it they could be like ATT the first time the iphone went from 2g to 3g, if you had the 2g you were able to get the upgrade even if you were only 1 yr or less into your contract. It doesnt make any sense for apple to delay a phone for 6 months just because Verizon just got theirs. On the bright side if you got your Iphone 4 on February then you can get your iphone 6(or whatever it will be called) next year once your elegible for an upgrade.
03-18-2011, 12:26 PM #26
Firstly it will, eventually, be EVERYWHERE, or virtually everywhere you may frequent as VeriPhone has announced it's inclusion in all new POS hardware. The adoption of this new, and some may argue "radical", transformation of payments NEEDS to be industry driven. ie - inclusion in all major POS systems, smartphones, etc. If it is not industry driven, and is left to vendor adoption, it WILL undoubtedly FAIL. While we likely will not see widespread deployment for a couple of years, and VeriPhone will likely push this forward(at least in the U.S.), it needs to be included in widely-deployable hardware. While we *may* not see NFC in the i5 it will arrive. Hopefully sooner than later if this strategy is to succeed. I personally expect to see NFC not only integrated in the iPhone 5 but also in a smattering of devices from RIM, Android and WinPho 7 OEM's as well as a variety of BlueTooth connected cases that allow retrofitting of current technology(assuming support for NFC exists in software for a given platform - which it will).
Just my 2 cents but I think this will happen. And while I hate, absolutely despise, the word evolution(and the associations, biases and connotations the come with it) when applied to anything other than biology for lack of a better word: This is the next evolutionary step in capitalism as facilitated by the wider proliferation and use of mobile technology. Period.
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03-18-2011, 11:35 PM #31
I think it's a cool concept. Hopefully they'll also put 4G on the new iPhone too.
03-19-2011, 01:29 AM #32
I could careless if Apple implements NFC technology into the next iPhone.
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03-19-2011, 10:00 AM #34
• A5 SoC - Probably with 512MB of RAM
(Maybe we'll see a gig but I doubt it, Apple really isn't a company the caters to spec hungry fandroids living in moms basement. Apple's product release history indicates that they will stay with 512MB until the 6th gen. The 3G[s] is kind of the exception. On the other hand we may see a situation reminiscent of the OG iPad and i4 with latter A4 equipped with dbl the RAM so it's hard to really say. My gut says 512, especially since it's 800Mhz? LPDDR2 and Apple will likely prefer to keep costs low and margins intact.)
• 1080p Rear facing camera, maybe a slightly higher MP
• Dualmode GSM/CDMA baseband hardware manufactured by Qualcom(Unifies and de-fragments the product line)
• A slightly larger Retina display
Other than those improvements I suspect the iPhone 5 will largely resemble the iPhone 4 in form factor as well as features. What we will NEVER see is MicroSD or USB. I think this will a 3G[s] type situation where we will see a number of minor upgrades rather than a full blown refresh. We are also unlikely, based on Apple's history in general, to see the inclusion of LTE until the iPhone 6. Apple will likely wait until this technology is widely deployed, tweaked for efficiency and cheaper to manufacture. Other than packing in more performance, upgrading optical sensors, BB hardware, etc. we're not likely to see anything too Earth shattering. What Apple needs to do is start to innovate in mobile again, at least hardware wise. The A5 looks like it's a beast so +1 to Apple on that. While I'm sure iOS 5 will include a host of improvements and new features(NOTIFICATIONS PLEASE!), and I've been quite happy with the release cycle for iOS 4 thus far. It's hard to say what Apple will do; I'd love to see a gesture area surrounding the home button or perhaps on the back of the phone. Hopefully Apple will put some of its millions of patents and IP they hold to good use. Time will tell.
03-20-2011, 11:18 AM #35
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03-21-2011, 01:08 AM #36
i think that it would be a nice feature to have. But apple usually doesnt like to incorporate features that they do not feel are going to take off.You don't like the iPad because you don't have one!
03-21-2011, 05:11 AM #37
i think we have to wait for its confirmation till june-july
03-21-2011, 11:35 AM #38
03-22-2011, 05:41 AM #39
IF iPhone 5 has a faster processor, and more ram... I'll be spending the money to buy it, out of contract. I think the added power is needed with JB tweaks, especially widgets and such. I won't spend that money for NFC, or a better camera...
I have a camera for that, lol.
The nice thing is, I'll still get iPhone 6 for renewal price, and I suspect that will be the next big revision.It's not where you've been, or where you're going..
It's where you are.
Reflect on the past, plan for the future, mod for today.
03-22-2011, 11:05 AM #40