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Originally Posted by orozcoj4 This may be one noobs humble opinion but it appears that Apple is winning the "cat and mouse" game. It seems like forever since 4.2.1 came...
01-29-2011, 03:22 PM #21
You always want to make sure things are released at the right time.. if they would release their things for 4.2.1 now, the holes would most likely have been resolved by the time 4.3 (final) is released to the public.
People have to realize that these guys do all of this for free and all they ever expect is a simple thanks. But all they get from people (/douches) are complaints on how slow they are making things work.
If we don't start thanking the dev teams what most likely will happen is that they will get sick of doing it and quit releasing things to us.
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01-29-2011, 03:24 PM #22
On my Cydia it's says "SHSH: 4.0.1, 4.0.2, 4.1, 4.2.1, 4.2b3.". But the only time I remember actually saving my SHSH was for 4.0.1. Am I good to go for this next jb? I'm still on 4.0.1. jb on BB 01.59.00. How would I retrieve 4.1 for the new untethered jb?
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01-29-2011, 03:27 PM #25
As far as the iPad, it would be nice if they just kept it working with 4.2b3 which they used to build and test this jailbreak (with the iPad too). I get the impression this might not be the case with the legal status of beta firmware distribution, but it's technically possible so we can hope.Only those who attempt the absurd will achieve the impossible. -- M.C. Escher
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge. -- D.J. Boorstin
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01-29-2011, 03:29 PM #27
It does seem like a more practical jailbreak is available in much less time and worse still an unlock, i know jb's and unlocks are held back i see clearly why but i do still think apple are winning,the fact they are held back gives apple bonus points + attention etc etc
01-29-2011, 03:36 PM #28
Us folks who either got a warranty replacement from Apple, or bought a new phone already on 4.2.1 will just have to keep hanging on by the look of it
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01-29-2011, 03:52 PM #30
That's not even for 4.2.1 so I don't care.
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01-29-2011, 04:05 PM #36General comments
I agree it's taken a long time to get a jailbreak but I think we need to be mindful that
the members of the dev team have a life outside of this and we are essentially receiving
a much needed jailbreak free of charge and no work on our behalf.
As an aside, I'm curious about how and if this will work for the iPad as there was no
4.1 version. Will there be a separate jailbreak with a 3.2.2 Monte?
For this people who have not saved their 4.1 blobs my understanding is that you cannot downgrade which means that a significant number of people will still not be able to jailbreak their idevice. with this final release.
I could be mistaken, but greenpois0n RC5 may not rely upon having previosly saved shsh blobs and will also be untethered.
I hope 4.2.1 can be jail broken and untethered but the release of 4.3 which is just around the corner. Furthermore, by releasing this jailbreak now, this will allow apple to provide a patch on the final version of the 4.3 release..
Is it worth it to have possibly burn an exploit (I dont know if this is the case) to provide a jailbreak people will use for maybe 3 weeks until iOS 4.3 is released.
01-29-2011, 04:10 PM #37
"I hope 4.2.1 can be jail broken and untethered but the release of 4.3 which is just around the corner. Furthermore, by releasing this jailbreak now, this will allow apple to provide a patch on the final version of the 4.3 release..
Is it worth it to have possibly burn an exploit (I dont know if this is the case) to provide a jailbreak people will use for maybe 3 weeks until iOS 4.3 is released. "
@ rickhi123 this way of jailbreaking cant be patched according to Musclenerd so it doesnt matter if its released now.
01-29-2011, 04:10 PM #38
face it folks, apple has stepped the game up big time
there wont be an untethered for fresh 4.2.1, probably ever
there PROBABLY wont be a 4.3 untethered when 4.3 is released
and there is no soft unlock for 2.10 / 3.10 comming right away
only light in the tunnell is CDMA WorkShop, a cdma flashing tool that is already flashing similar chipsets to the upcoming iphone 5 and verizon iphone (qualcomm?)
so chances are the cdma iphones will get flashed fairly quick
(cricket, ghettro pcs, probably NOT sprint)
be greatful for what you can get and dont buy phones expecting there will be utilities readily available to jailbreak/unlock your phone
01-29-2011, 04:13 PM #39
Apple will without a doubt hold on releasing it for as long as possible.
The whole story is more about holding on current security holes than not having an untethered jailbreak available.
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01-29-2011, 04:16 PM #40