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01-15-2011, 06:31 PM #21
what the pin heads with the pen and paper dont understand is alot of people (me) take customer service makes a big decision with customer service, and att sucks big time. also I had the moto q on verizon few years ago and then there data service blew att out of the water. for me it could be same phone better service. Plus att screwed the pooch with their price on data plans. BYE BYE ATT ohh taking family and friends with.
01-15-2011, 11:52 PM #22
C reports is turned into a bunch of crying crystal ball has beens. They lost some credibility with their rants on the i4. And now are looking for redemption. I see them loosing more sweeps by this report as well. Also they never get faqs anymore. Like how bout the current "apple will make the gsm handhelds 1st then start production on the CDMA i5. While Verizon is huge. They are no match for the 95% world wide gsm companies. CDMA sucks and 4g, while better than the current speed, is no match for GSM.
01-16-2011, 07:32 AM #23Iphone 4 on BigRed
Ok by starters I Work For At&t mobility Store sales and im excited that the Iphone 4 is going to Verizon!
So regardless that consumer reports dosn't think its a great idea I do and here are the reasons why...
1 larger sales base For Apple eg more profit more research and development and more apps.
2 a quality smart phone For a Company with Good coverage.
3 once people who switch back to Verizon from At&t or any other carrier and find that their new phone slash computer wont do voice and data at the same time At&t's iphone wont look so bad.
Now is that a major factor For most Of us? "no" really most Of us only use 1 thing at a time voice or data, but For the few like myself that depend on talking to a person while finding directions or information on the web from out handsets it will be the deciding factor.
I look forward to buying a verizon iphone and deciding for myself if the little extra bit Of coverage is worth the trade off, in my heart Of hearts I dont think it will but Im going to try.
01-16-2011, 09:35 AM #24
Consumer reports, as much as people here don't like them, are absolutely right. Verizon is simply cashing in on old technology. The iPhone will lock you into a contract for 20 months, long into the expected rollout of the LTE network. Consumer Reports is very wise to tell you to wait. This isn't about how well the iPhone performs, but rather the dubious timing by Verizon.
Us Verizon people have waited almost 4 years for the iPhone, what's another 5 months for a proper LTE phone?
In the world of technology, sometimes there's something coming down the road that's worth waiting for, and sometimes there isn't. LTE is coming, we all know this. It's wise for people to hold off on updating and locking themselves into a 20 month contract with a whole new network coming down the road.
Sometimes waiting is smart, and this is one of those times.
01-16-2011, 09:36 AM #25
People are dumb, and I hate it. Consumer Report is dumb and I hate them more...now where is my android....
01-16-2011, 09:43 AM #26
Correct me if I am wrong, but CONSUMER reports is trying to inform the consumer, right? What does this have anything to do with how well the phone sold, really? They aren't saying that Apple and Verizon should/will lose market share here, they are simply stating they don't recommend the product to us as consumers. In some ways, I agree with them. The thing is, I don;t think average iPhone consumer uses their phone for MUCH more than what they mihgt use an iPod touch for... meaning reception and voice issues are not of a huge concern. We have sort of evolved smartphone ownership into data consumption and very little else. Most/many of us are simply "renting to own" our phone in all reality.
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01-16-2011, 11:08 AM #27
Oh btw, Consumer reports did the right thing. Their job is to inform. Before, I was also contemplating to buy iPhone 4, but after I did a long and a thoughtful research (a month of reading some online reviews & talking to friends who already had iPhone 4), I decided that the "antenna-gate" would not be an issue for me. There are ways to fix, such as getting a bumper. Other reason: my old iPhone 3g was damn slow and I couldn't take it anymore. Buy hey ... I was able to sell it for 200 bucks - I got my money back.
01-16-2011, 11:32 AM #28
No one cares what you think CR...obviously you were wrong about the iPhone 4, so suck it...
01-16-2011, 02:35 PM #29
Gotta point out to those who think waiting for a better iPhone is worth it:
the refresh time for an apple mobile device is one year.
Sorry to say this, but verizon's iPhone 5 (possibly with LTE) is February of 2011. Got verizon? Want an iPhone? Get it now, or wait a year. There's not going to be a June option. I can see an iPhone 6 in June of 2012 with integrated multiple-network capabilities. Apple did buy that multi-sim research company...
Also, eating my words here, you guys were right about CR trying to protect the consumer... I just think they're doing a crappy job...
01-16-2011, 04:57 PM #30
Big surprise consumer reports is smashing another apple product, and in the long run there's always going to be a bigger and better model in 1 year to 8 months...
01-16-2011, 08:37 PM #31wow
ok ok ok.... i get what most of you are saying some as always seem very informed and others are that guy on the sidewalk hammered drunk cursing at ppl lol.. we all love that guy but hey your prob. not going to let him u drive home are you?
the one thing that i gotta say is verizon congrats! you finally have a good smart phone, but its a shame it cant do voice and data at the same time. att and the ppl the bash them im sorry you have a non perfect service with them as it would be with any carrier... i mean damn its all where you live man we dont even have 3g yet but im not bitchn att has always taken care of me all the way back when it was cingular... they have dropped 100's of my bills and it was soo my fault. but i get it, cause i work for the largest tower company in the world and see the orders for att tmobile etc.
but really even if verizon gets there butts in gear for there LTE its not going to anywhere but major cities and even than i really dont see it going full boar tell maybe end of nxt yr.
last thing has apple said hey we are going to release the i5 to both carriers in june??? i havent read it yet... i really think this a feeler for them seeing if verizon can back the smack talk up! att has been overloaded eversince iphone was released but ya gotta say they been holding up there end of the deal or apple would have x'ed them years ago. not saying there great everywhere but what network could take the massive blows att has been with the iphone and keep
01-17-2011, 08:57 AM #32
K with this talk all i can say is buy an iphone with no contract!!! If you want the new iphone then buy this one with no contract. Later if they come out with the new one wich they will. Buy that one with a contract or if its available no contract. I know its a bit sucky that they are selling a phone that will have a better model soon but hey thats the world now. Who doesnt want money?
4G in another not is garbage!!! They go around saying the nations fastest 4g blabla they aint got 4g!!! In central america this company tigo. They had 3g then they said they wanted 4g but wasnt posible in the countries network so they went with 3.5g. Here in the us they aint give a crap about you they want there *** crappy contracts to screw you over,
The phone not making internet and call usage at the same time is not important to me. I never use network data when im talking on the phone. So no problem with me one that. Most people i know dont use data and calling at the same time.
01-17-2011, 11:49 AM #33
Does anyone still take advice from comsumer reports. Isn't this the same people who "loved" the iPhone4 until the consumers actually got it and complained about antennagate. Then released a statement bashing it. Yeah after that I would trust them. Consumer reports is not the real consumers reporting.
01-17-2011, 05:34 PM #34
Consumer reports is not off target with iphone 4. As a phone it is not a great product i.e making and receiving phone calls. The antenna issue is a real thing it rally does exist. This is a major flaw in the phone and even with the bumper it is still far from perfect. What consumer reports does not get is how good it is at everything else. The iphone 4 is unmatched in sheer enjoyment of use.
I do however applaud CR for taking a stand against a corporate giant such as apple. The easy thing would have been to give it great reviews and say something like " reception isn't a always great". The phone is still a great product but it is undeniable that it has a major flaw. Knowing this i still bought the phone and with this in mind i am happy with my phone but i still think APPLE were very ****** Bag like releasing a phone with a major issue.
Apple fanboys need to be more objective because apple in my opinion is beginning to act a lot like Microsoft used to and we all know what happened to them.
01-17-2011, 06:28 PM #35
For many people that aren't familiar with Consumer Reports... they have been pretty unbiased in their reports on products through the years. Their stand on this subject isn't necessarily against what the current product is capable of (or incapable of); it is much rather an attempt to make the consumer aware of what lies ahead in terms of technological advancement that they can make a more informed decision~
01-18-2011, 03:00 AM #36
I Sure as hell wouldn't buy the Verizon iPhone next month if I were still on their network. But then again.... Most people on Verizon have no clue when Apple releases their new phones. So right after they sign into their contract, June will slap them in the face with the iPhone 5.
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01-19-2011, 11:05 AM #37
01-22-2011, 01:52 AM #38
I was, OH WAIT..this is Consumer Reports we're talking about; LMAO!!! Thanks but I'll stick with Cnet's Reviews cause they are More reliable.It is Not by our Hands that things Change, BUT rather our Interventions that change ourselves.
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