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Originally Posted by DRFP Its not the DevTeam its Apple, the courts need to help us and tell Apple they cannot close the exploits for JB, in other words make...
01-04-2011, 10:48 AM #101
01-04-2011, 11:47 AM #102
Warranty is a completely separate issue. Basically the ruling could challenge the legality of Apple voiding warranties based on JB but go ahead and try. You'd spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on legal bills to get a warranty claim on $600 phone. You'd prolly win but it'd take years and lots of $$$. Makes no sense.
But Apple is under zero obligation to write software that allows for JB. If they want to update their BB or firmware, that's their prerogative and something you should consider before buying their product. If you don't like it, don't update or don't buy their product.
Be thankful Apple doesn't do OTA updates that require you to upgrade or lose functionality of your phone. Everyone wants their cake and to eat it too. Gotta have the iPhone but can't stand Apple taking away your JB so lets complain about how your inalienable "rights" are being violated.
01-04-2011, 12:17 PM #103
While this method is better than nothing, it does mean many people will find the 4.2b3 IPSW without a developer's account & make the icommunity look worse than we already do. Looks as though many will just have to deal with a tethered JB or wait for 4.3
Even though Geohot is an egotist & attention whore who leaves other devs to trouble shoot his bugs. He is by far the best at creating very easy to use & stable jailbreaks. It's truly amazing the work he gets done in literally days! & all by himself! I may not like his politics, but he knows what's up with iPhone hacking.
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01-04-2011, 12:40 PM #104
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01-04-2011, 01:51 PM #107
There is any easy solution to the pirated apps dilemma. Require Internet connection when installing and use challenge-response protocol for apps.
Furthermore, I have to play devils advocate regarding cracked apps and say there are legitimate reasons to have them. I have 1 cracked app only because I paid for the original license on my 3G but the developer isn't available any more. I wiped my 3G before I found out how to sync jailbroken apps and bought my 3GS. Legally I still own a license for one copy of the app and the developer isn't around any more so I downloaded the same version I had.
What would all of you have done?
Edit: I sold my 3G before buying my 3GS.
Also has anyone figured out how to look into the firmwares and determine what differences there are and of you can replace certain files with updated versions without actually updating firmwares so we can preserve our jailbreaks?
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01-04-2011, 03:26 PM #108
I don't understand why he would wait for a firmware that has no proof of existence. This "4.3" may not even come out. Comex should just release the untethered jailbreak now and then find a new exploit if "4.3" actually comes out which doesn't seem soon. I bet geohot would have figured out and released an untethered jailbreak already. He may already have an untethered jailbreak but at least he's saving it for a new device not a stupid firmware which may not even exist!
01-04-2011, 03:35 PM #109
Owning a house is legal but that doesn't mean you're given a house just because you're legally allowed to own it. Same thing with JB. Just because you can legally JB, doesn't mean Apple has to give it to you. There are dozens of similar examples.
Bottom line is, you're allowed to JB and can do so. Be happy that its available at all. Apple isn't gonna change their mind all of sudden on JB and allow it. You're not gonna win fighting in court either (unless you've got gobs of money). So look at the glass as half-full and backup your blobs
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01-04-2011, 06:01 PM #110
With absolutely ALL DUE RESPECT to the Dev team , I hate when they hold their JBs to the next iOS release. While I understand the thought process, essentially you’re just making the community wait and wait, then when the new iOS comes out we have to wait and wait some more. It’s like an endless loop. We hear “going to hold out till the next iOS release,” yet I have yet to see a JB come out a day or two after that release…
01-04-2011, 06:56 PM #111
U want to get at the dev team? Go on strike, that's right everyone stop jailbreaking, that'll show them. When they see all their profits...oh wait, they dont charge for jb? Oh I feel dumb, I guess it's up to them and I have to live with it or figure it out myself. Or maybe direct my voice to the team that is charging, Apple. Maybe.
01-04-2011, 07:50 PM #112
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01-04-2011, 08:57 PM #1138 gig iPhone Edge 2G (first day iPhone): UNLKD/JB using bootneuter and blackra1n.
8 gig iPhone 3G (first day iPhone): UNLKD/JB using Whited00r CFW
16 gig iPhone 3GS (new bootrom): UNLKD/JB using ultrasn0w/limera1n.
16 gig Wifi iPad first day iPad JB using greenpois0n.
32 gig Wifi/3G iPad first day iPad UNLKD/JB using greenpois0n.
32 gig iPhone 4(first day iPhone): UNLKD/JB using ultrasn0w/greenpois0n
Apps: 157 installed 25 developed.
01-04-2011, 10:53 PM #114
obviously there isn't an unlimited amount of ways to jailbreak an idevice, otherwise we wouldn't have to wait for the dev team or geohot to find such a method, therefore would you rather waste a valuable exploit on 4.2.1 knowing that it will be patched by Apple in the next firmware AND also knowing that 4.3 is just around the corner, or could you stop whining for one second and be patient because as I imagine finding these exploits is no easy task
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01-04-2011, 11:24 PM #115
I agree stop complaining but to be fair, there will always be another firmware around the corner. After 4.3 there will be 4.5, etc so do us wait for that one? heck if I didn't have to get a new phone I would still be on 4.1. I say give the user the option, if u can release an exploit for 4.2.1 go ahead and if apple closes it with 4.3 then it's the users option to upgrade or not.
01-05-2011, 08:22 AM #116
I'm still on 4.1 which runs smoother than smooth.. No worries on updating to 4.2 or 4.3... Doesn't do me any good. Everything runs just great on 4.1.. And all apple is doin is releasing updates to patch jailbreak holes. Ridiculous, thought after the last time that the iPhone was now pwned for life until they change the hardware!
I'm still wondering why an unlock for iPhone 4 for 2.10.04 hasn't been released???
01-05-2011, 09:41 AM #117
4.3 will not be out untill next version iphone, next iphone will have different chip
01-05-2011, 09:51 AM #118
01-05-2011, 10:46 AM #119
My 2 cents ,when i was young hackers were hackers and did not care about politics all that much surrounding the scenes also they kept their identity quiet and secret,things that needed to get done got done quickly and efficiently ,now we beta test for weeks jailbreaks which really dont do anything for us besides crippling our phones ,what is it worth to have a phone without bluetooth where most apps wont work and where the battery of your phone drains due to jailbreak so much you need a battery pack on your back,well i dont know ,in any case my belief is if they were capable to jailbreak 4.2.1 it would be out ,now they just cant (the right way anyway,a tethered jailbreak is pointless and their monte solution is just stupid,going through all this work to get a crippled phone )all the dev team is good at lately is to have musclenerd flap his gums pretending they can and also to pretend that they have such a good one in stock for the future ,woohoooooooooo big f*()_) deal.bunch of "hackers" affraid of breaking the law, you should call yourself programmers with skills not hackers .just go rogue ,underground, stop running after fame and future jobs based on your jailbreak exploits and just do it if you really capable to keep up instead of wasting your time and ours with poinless twitter chitchat,going against one another ....boohoo this one revealed shatter,boohoo this one said my moma was fat ,boohoo let me show you my guns (referring to p0sixninja on twitter from chronic when he was saying he;s going to war with musclenerd ,you know the chronic dev team the most pointless team around for sure)boooooooooooooooo the **** whooooooooooooo either pullout a jailbreak or get quiet like Geohot ,at least he doesnt ******** anymore and from time to time as usual he comes back to the scene with something worthed he made himself ,not like the dev team which uses his vulnerability to try to make something work.as per COmex how difficult is it to give a clear answer ,everyone wants to know if the 4.2.1 solution offered by you and supposed to go out by xmas will come out before the iphone 10 just say it yes or no how difficult can this be ?
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01-05-2011, 12:25 PM #120