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The thing is Blackberrys are ugly and Android has major holes in their OS, so iPhone is the only option...
01-03-2011, 03:40 PM #21
The thing is Blackberrys are ugly and Android has major holes in their OS, so iPhone is the only optionName? whereswaldo
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01-03-2011, 03:40 PM #22
Yeah I hate to sound biased as an Iphone user but I agree with the posters who are trying to look at the broad side of things. It's true, android is getting a bigger user base than ever, but consider the devices. I'd like to see a chart that compares quality and functionality (processor, ram, other hardware capabilities) as it compares sheer numbers. That would give a little indication of what's really going on. My roommate chose android over iphone and now he has the Samsung Moment. Yes it's a smartphone, and yes it's an android, but it's physically weak and unimpressive.
Android is attractive in some ways, like bigger screens and hard keyboards. But the unified design of ios devices (by type) provides a consistent user experience. And I can use any app in the app store; I don't have to be limited to what's designed for the hardware specs of my device.
01-03-2011, 03:54 PM #23
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01-03-2011, 04:17 PM #24
I think... if anyone cares;
We're only years away from Android having a very noticeable lead over apple, and it's for reasons such as 100 android devices (£70-£500) vs 1 ios device (£500-£600).
That's what's always made apple products soo good, being the swanky, more expensive, better made and pure quality alternative.
More attention will bring more problems, or at least make the same problems look worse.
I want Android to win,
And I will continue to use iPhones even when they do.
Rather a Apple fanboy than a Google sheep.
01-03-2011, 04:34 PM #25
People just need to give other OS's a chance!! Sure iOS is dominating but why can't we just have different tastes for everyone else!! Not everyone likes the nintendo wii which is why we have ps3's and 360's, no difference on the phone side! I have a Samsung galaxy s phone and the iPhone 4 and they're both great! Phones. I use my galaxy s as much as I use the iPhone 4! People that don't really know anything about android should really look and research it before they start talking bad about it. Android is about customizing your phone the way you want it to be, sure the iPhone can do the same thing " if you jailbreak " but not everyone is going to jailbreak their phone! Android doesn't need to be " rooted " to customize the phone even tho you get more benefits with root access. You can install custom Roms on Android, can you with iOS? Nope, besides the ones you create to have Cydia in! I love both OS's. The clean Fresh look of iOS and the power to customize without jailbreaking or " rooting " of Android.
01-03-2011, 04:36 PM #26
01-03-2011, 04:43 PM #27
Yeah but unfortunately not everyone has the brain that we have when it comes to jailbreaking! I know a lot of people who i always ask " how come you don't jailbreak " and they tell me they're scared to mess up their phones or apple voiding their warranty. I know that if I ever mess up my i4 I'll just store to stock firmware and take it back, but like I said the point is with android you can do pretty much anything you want, sure jailbreaking an iPhone is easy specially with geohot tools which are mainly 1 click jailbreaks. That's not the point tho, we are talking about being able to customize your phone without the need of jailbreaking which is where android kicks apples ***
Lol, my bad man I thought you were talking about jailbreaking!!
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01-03-2011, 04:47 PM #28
One phone on one carrier whipping the rest of the phones arses.
"barely" is a B.S. cop out for "OMG that's insane"Screw #Winning, I'm #Juanning
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01-03-2011, 05:35 PM #29
Its unbelievable that Apple is in the picture at all. They have one handset on one network. Android and BB have dozens of each on all networks. The fact that Apple is even on this list at all (let alone at the top) means they're kicking ***** and taking names.
BB and Android to pay Apple or Verizon to prevent that marriage because once that happens, they're both gonna be afterthoughts.
01-03-2011, 07:39 PM #30
If Android had all the decent App Store apps, there would be no point in buying the iPhone but that's not the case.
Give Android a few more updates and more apps in the Market, it'll be better than the iPhone. With Android you get more choices as well.
I'm getting bored of the iPhone ugly grey white UI and the themes in Cydia are mostly crap or 99% of them are themes that change the icons and I think the stock icons are the best.
A high end Android 2.2 phone and an iPod Touch is the best solution, best of both worlds.
01-03-2011, 07:54 PM #31
So why is iPhone still #1? Because it's simply the best phone using the best technology.
Much like Windows is a cheap ripoff of the MacOS - other smart phones just steal all the brilliant ideas that Apple's R&D come up with. If it's wasn't for Apple, we'd all probably still have bulky, hard-to-use Blackberrys.
Simply put, your a troll and I decided to feed you.
01-03-2011, 08:33 PM #32
Actually, he's right, mr. frothy. Win is a rip of mac. Read a wiki or watch pirates of silicon valley. You're the one who sounds like a troll slinging insults at everyone you disagree with.
01-03-2011, 11:32 PM #33
I enjoy reading these post over this debate! I'm pretty sure Apple will indeed grasp firm control when Verizon gets the iPhone. Androids OS is on 50 plus handsets and on every network, against iOS one handset, one network. So what would Androids numbers be like if they had one handset and on one network. I know it wouldn't be even close to the iPhone numbers. Android is going to have to almost give there handsets away once Verizon gets the iPhone.
And why do people have to take jabs at AT&T? It's great where I live!
01-04-2011, 06:25 AM #34
I'm waiting impatiently for Google Android 3.0 Honeycomb driven pad.
Then I could put my iPad to the ebay/shed/whatever.
01-04-2011, 08:54 AM #35
Interesting figures but they don't mean much, really. Apple as a company is flourishing. They make like 55% profit on everything they sell, which is insane. And all these numbers concerning Android take into account ALL Android phones -- any single company isn't even a candle to Apple's market share and profitability.
RIM, now I can't explain that one. I guess business people are still hooked on the Blackberry. I think companies buy them for their employees because they're cheap, I know that's why my dad has one - he doesn't have a choice. Not that I would recommend Apple to him otherwise, 'cause the iPhone is a poor business phone.
Android is going to have to seriously drop their prices to compete with the iPhone at that point.
01-04-2011, 11:47 AM #36
I have a 3gs and my wife 3g
My 2 sons Androids (Captivates)
I like both of em to be honest.
If Android keeps it up I may switch in the future since I will not have to deal with all this JB stuff with them and Android phones are getting good (Captivate)
It never says outright its a rip of mac OS,
It had some similarities though.
I started programing before Win and Mac come out in those days with Basic. I feel most people have no idea of what they talk about when it comes to this. Xerox made the first GUI with a Mouse, Apple and Microsoft both look at it and were allowed to use it ( Clearly shown in the movie and its correct in timing as well) Windows was a GUI on top of Basic (DOS)
Mac's OS was not on top it was integrated
Windows was based on DOS........not OSX.
While the two OS's share a lot they mostly shared the GUI with Xerox! Not each other in the beginning. (BTW Did not Steve J. Invite and allow Bill G. access to MAC? Hmm)
M$ may have used the early Mac OSX to help them solve some issues with Windows but
Windows is not Mac OSX clearly its not
Get it straight.......... I think this continues because windows "Won" Apple kept OSX from other Hardware they did not sell, M$ sells mostly only software and to everyone, why use software you cannot use on cost effective and at times superior equipment? That is Apple's fault, they helped M$ win.
I think in the Iphone Apple shines
as well as the Ipad ( I hate the Ipad BTW)
Both were a stroke of Genius but they may loose if they will not allow JB
Apple needs to wise up
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01-04-2011, 12:36 PM #37
Yes, Steve asked Bill to come by to see his new os. Bill brought along some cohorts with the specific order to watch and assimilate, and learn. They didn;t copy any of the software or directly steal anything. But they ripped Job's GUI style completely. That was Bill's plan, to one up Steve in the GUI department.
PS: DOS and BASIC are two completely separate systems. If you knew that, I'd believe your story about programming in BASIC before windows came out. But for now, I don't! See, I WAS programming in BASIC before windows came out.
01-04-2011, 12:42 PM #38
Mr Sunshine posts like Mr Clueless
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First - How much the MOST expensive Android phone cost has NOTHING to do with the topic. The point is that there are PLENTY of cheap or free Android based phones that make it difficult for iPhone to compete in our fiscally challenged economy.
Second - I absolutely am a Apple fan. DUH! But that doesn't change the fact that iPhone continues to be the cutting edge, high-end smart phone. If you did any research before you posted your ignorant comments, you'd know that. I don't have the time to walk you through the technology that went into the iPhone 4. Maybe look into the A4 processor, retina display, up to 64gb of storage (Droid has 8), best lithium-ion battery on market or even the ultra-strong glass used for the screen that's used on Japanese bullet trains.
Third - MacBooks are ripoff of Sony Vaio? Dude, you are so clueless that I can't even respond to this comment. It doesn't even make any sense. Again, just read up on operating system history a little bit. Going all the way back to the 1990s, MacOS came up with a feature and 2-3 years later, Windows copied it.
Even Windows 7 (which I like) is heavily stolen from MacOS. Here's a list on a PC website of 10 new Window 7 features that were stolen from MacOSX : 10 features Windows stole from Mac OS News - PC Advisor
I'll be the first to say iPhone 4/iOS is far from perfect. And I'm not ripping on anyone who uses Windows 7 or Android phones - I like them both. In fact, I run both OSX and Windows 7 on my MacBook Pro just to use Office for Windows 7 because it's WAY better than the MacOS version. But you should really give props to Apple's R&D for greatly contributing to what those systems are today.
Oh... and I'm pretty sure a "troll" is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous or off-topic messages. I believe, Mr Sunshine, in this case... that would be you!
01-04-2011, 12:47 PM #39
And it's not clear how much money they make with Android at all.
Maybe $1 billion.
But they are splitting that, so who knows how much they actually make. I wonder if Apple gets a cut of that since they have Google as the 'default' search engine on the iPhone... Search engines are fickle. Remember when Yahoo! was number one? So do they. It's a whole lot easier to make some other search engine your home page than it is to swap handsets or computers.
Google had $7.3 billion revenue and $2.17 billion in net income. Apple had $20.34 billion in revenue and $4.31 billion in net income. Apple's biggest chunk is from hardware sales.
Apple is now going into the ad business. They may go into the search engine biz as well. They may not be as big in it as Google is. Yet. But every dollar they take from Google adds up.
I'd say having Verizon and T-Mobile selling their phones and iPads will make a big difference.
Course, that's just my opinion.
01-04-2011, 02:12 PM #40
I fusking hate the iAds. Considering that apple is still leading despite the release of android on every major carrier including at&t I don't think apple is too worried about android. There are still lots of bugs in android, versions aren't always the same taking into consideration the phone manufacturer and their custom android themes, and the fact that for the most part apple approved apps run 10x better due to having to be approved.
Couple all of that with the same hardware for every carrier setup and you have a pretty formidable force.
Have any of you bought an android phone just to realize there is a better version available on another carrier or have you taken it home and posted about your brand new phone just to read responses of newer, better, and same priced phones coming out on that carrier that you are now locked into a 2-year contract with?
With apple at least you know what you are getting and you know how long you will have it unt the next version comes out so you can make probably the most well-thought out decision you could with all the information you have.