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11-21-2010, 04:23 PM #21
You can buy your iPhone direct from Apple and unlocked already and put in your £10-20 a month SIM. We all ready have the option and freedom to do this with any GSM carrier globally.
But with this internal Apple SIM, we'll only have the option to program in the networks Apple wants us to.
11-21-2010, 05:57 PM #22
this would honestly suck for customers that, if for some reason, they needed to switch to a backup phone. with built-in SIM you would have to go to your carrier and have them switch your number to a different phone instead of being able to do it yourself
11-21-2010, 07:29 PM #23
11-21-2010, 07:50 PM #24
11-21-2010, 07:54 PM #25
I would hate a built in sim. If u buy from one carrier you can't unlock and change the SIM for overseas!
11-21-2010, 08:47 PM #26
I could care less about the carriers ......
This is potentially a MAJOR BLOW to you and me -- the consumer.
With an bedded SIM, it will be more difficult for consumers to make quick and easy carrier changes and much easier for Apple to lock us out!!
11-21-2010, 09:57 PM #27
Well, so far as I've heard, apple has abandoned it's plans for an embedded sim, but who really knows, apple does things at the last minute sometimes without anyone even knowing about it..this could b one of those times just to shut the carrier exces up
11-21-2010, 10:10 PM #28
If they go with embedded sims, I will switch to a different phone, period.
11-21-2010, 10:56 PM #29
I wouldn't like the unsubsidized part at all, would have wait longer to get the phoneYou don't like the iPad because you don't have one!
11-22-2010, 12:57 AM #30
11-22-2010, 01:21 AM #31
The iphone 4 is still selling strong at 600-1000 locked or unlocked on the bay, so people will pay whatever to be cool.
11-22-2010, 01:55 AM #32
^Sure is ... as long as I get to choose which ones, including non-Apple-authorized carriers.
11-22-2010, 01:59 AM #33
As long as it would be possible to manually input your ICCID into the phone, either legitimately or through our nefarious methods, I see no major P.I.T.A. in an embedded SIM as opposed to a removable card.
Now why the carriers are kvetching so much is beyond me, especially if ability to change ICCID (and therefore networks) is severely limited by Apple, even if the unit is factory unlocked.
Unless they're afraid people will use other people's ICCIDs/IMSIs and rack up illicit charges/steal other's communiqués.
11-22-2010, 02:44 AM #34
11-22-2010, 06:11 AM #35
All this is going to do is drive everyone to prepaid plans. People will stop getting subsidized phones and the Carriers will lose. That is what they are worried about.
11-22-2010, 06:34 AM #36
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Carriers don't want to subsidize phones, because they have to front the money to Apple. They don't want to have stores, because that costs money. And they're developing their own integrated SIM, so they're essentially doing what Apple is doing. They just want their monthly fee for providing lousy service, too expensive and always limited text messages/minutes/data. I still haven't figured out what they're squawking about, because no matter what they do, they'll end up being the stupid data pipes they've always been. Granted, giving Apple yet more control to close the system is never a good thing (the obsession with trying to remove all the screws has gotta stop).
11-22-2010, 07:21 AM #37
11-22-2010, 10:31 AM #38
It's a good thing it looks like Apple has backed off from this. Not sure why this story hasn't been posted on the main page considering I read it the other day...
AppleInsider | Carriers' threats force Apple to abandon embedded iPhone SIM plans
So no worries people.
Last edited by Tario70; 11-22-2010 at 10:36 AM.
11-26-2010, 08:54 PM #39
What about the fact that we would all have to tell Apple, through iTunes, what we are doing with THEIR iPhones?