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10-20-2010, 05:23 PM #21
'Macs make you feel like you are in a prison', and Windows doesn't?
That idea needs expansion. I went to a Mac to get OUT of prison. I have much more control over what happens on my Mac than I ever did in Windows. Between scripting/automator, .plist files, the wealth of Linux/Unix tools... show me where the bars are...
I totally agree with the theme of the 'jail' on iDevices... but it's not there on the computers... yet. And I don't see it coming. If it does, I will scream loudly.
10-20-2010, 05:39 PM #22
10-20-2010, 06:03 PM #23
10-20-2010, 06:27 PM #24
Oh please...let's stop getting our panties in a bunch here...The Mac App Store may just be an effort to make installation of applications on OS X even easier, although I certainly hope that it will be in addition to the programs are installed and not instead of.
Of course it would make sense to have centralized management of your installed software that, upon system failure, bad hard drive, upgrade to a new machine, etc., you could simply log in to the OS X-equivalent to your iTunes account and simply re-download all your apps, free and paid alike, along with maybe even settings and other things. I personally wouldn't want this, but I can see the appeal and application of such app management.
I also don't think that many people would put up with a Big Brother-like system, so as fast as the market share of the Mac seems to go up, it can dwindle back into oblivion really fast if such foolish thoughts were to be entertained by the Grand CEO and generally Big Boss Man of anything iOS, OS X, and everything in between. (e.g. eSATA, USB 3, Bluray, just to name a "few".)
EDIT: Having said that, I did find this, though: List of apps that will not be allowed into the Mac App Store
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10-20-2010, 06:46 PM #25
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10-20-2010, 08:10 PM #26
I am exited to see this on my mac.
10-20-2010, 08:35 PM #27
I'm going to wait for Lion to be released before I purchase my first Mac. I'm planning on getting a MacBook Pro for School.
10-20-2010, 08:39 PM #28
and "lion"......not working out.
2011 is looking better than ever! to bad we wont be here in 2012
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10-20-2010, 08:42 PM #29
I agree, for those of you that actually watched the entire keynote- Steve Jobs specifically said that it will "be the easiest way....not necessarily the only way, but the easiest way to download apps." I'm certain that it will still be possible to download apps on the web (without any restrictions). But it gives developers an easier option to use.
Let's say Photoshop for example. Adobe, instead of selling the product in stores, could just put their app on the app store. Then users can buy it with just one click.
Looking back at that however, there is one MAJOR problem. Apple still makes 30% of the sales from the app/s, so Photoshop is probably an insignificant example. It was a very bad move for apple to keep that concept with the Mac App Store. I think that Developers of large applications won't be as convinced as small developers that will now make apps with small but useful purposes.....such as the apps made for iOS.
10-20-2010, 08:51 PM #30
If 10.7 only runs signed apps my macbook will be running ubuntu for the rest of its life.
10-20-2010, 08:54 PM #31
What jobs said directly was
"It will be the best way to discover applications. It won't be the only way, but we think it'll be the best way"
10-20-2010, 09:00 PM #32
I once prayed to God for an iPhone, but quickly found out He didn't work that way...so I stole an iPhone and prayed for His forgiveness.
A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than you love yourself. - Josh Billings
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10-20-2010, 09:02 PM #33
10-20-2010, 09:09 PM #34
Okay... I am not a real mac user.. You are probably right. Although with Windows 7 I have seen few things that I can't modify.
10-20-2010, 09:46 PM #35
10-20-2010, 09:54 PM #36
Jobs whole goal in life has been to lock down the platform. In the early days that was the downfall of the Mac. On the iPhone it worked due to the fact that the phone isn't a replacement for the computer.
Guess what neither is an iPad.
The day of the locked mac is coming and it will be the day the mac returns to the days of it's slide into obscurity, again.
10-20-2010, 10:11 PM #37
I am very sure this whole "only running signed apps" is just a rumor, could you imagine the consequences if apple actually tried to do something like that.
If they actually did do that we would find alot more windows users in the future.Spam deleted
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10-20-2010, 11:47 PM #38
Everyone knows that Jobs is trying to control everything, but even HE knows that he cant do that. NOONE would buy macs, I'm pretty sure he is smart enough to realize that. For now the app store will be just an easier way to buy signed apps. If the mac ever becomes locked.......it will be in a very long time i believe.
They are going to leave computers as they should be, and mobile devices as they should be.....period
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10-21-2010, 02:24 AM #39
Has anyone used the latest version of ubuntu? It has a similar way of delivering apps like the proposed Mac App Store. Not all items at are a cost.
Originally, when I first attempted to use ubuntu as my Linux install since it was more friendly, I quickly found it to be a hassle to get any software installed on it. With the new app delivery system, users are able to search for specific type of software and once installed, it automatically checks for updates. Keep in mind one still has the option to manually install software. Sound familiar???
The MAC app store is going to open the Mac community to more options to software. Devs will want to spend time and money creating great new software. Look what the iPhone jailbreaking community did with early ios builds as far as apps, and then apple decided to build from that. Now we are using our phones for things that a couple of years ago were not thought of.
I only hope they don't lock it down totally.time will tell, and if they do, a jailbreak would be available the next day, lol.
10-21-2010, 03:13 AM #40
I can actually see Apple locking OSX down. It may not happen tomorrow or next year but I think it will happen.
Apple likes locking their devices, restricting their users actions and controlling what they do... it's only a matter of time before this strategey is slowly and gradually moved towards the Mac. It'll be small gradual changes to OSX that'll further restrict what we can do.. they'll continue to push the boundries until their market share takes a hit.