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Thread: Cydia Acquires Rock.app
09-11-2010, 04:54 PM #241
i use both cydia and rock when they both first started. the rock grew on me. sure rock has its problems in the beginning so did cydia when it first started. rock has greatly improved and is more stable and i havent had a problem with it for a long time now. i think i had only 1 restore with rock but when i had my 2g and 3g i did had some restores with cydia but that was still the beginning phases of jailbreaking.
what i like about the rock is:
1. its UI its more user friendly
2. auto backup jailbroken files when rock was open
3. better featured, hot, and popular apps and themes section.
4. rating and comment system. (helps me avoid bad/glitched apps instead of installing and finding out for myself)
Rock you will be missed. it rocked my phone! hopefully there will be some improvements and changes with cydia. i already notice the home page is already changed on cydia. also backgrounder is no longer working on cydia. double click or even holding the home button. tried it with all my other apps and its running in background fine but not cydia.
Last edited by anekin007; 09-11-2010 at 04:57 PM.
09-11-2010, 04:55 PM #242
Personally im disappointed. I swapped to Rock App because Cydia was so slow. Rock did screw my phone once, but i don't mind restoring, i can do it overnight.
Here's hoping Cydia will speed up some (well drastically actually)]
09-11-2010, 04:59 PM #243
Apparently people don't read the first page anymore to see this... Saurik already said the backup feature and other updates will be coming to cydia. I just don't understand why people can't scroll down and read instead of posting that they don't like this because cydia won't have the backup feature or barely gets updated.
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09-11-2010, 05:00 PM #244
This is awesome news. The jailbreak community is growing so much stronger and so much faster nowadays. I can't wait for what's ahead. These are exciting times for Jailbreakers!
09-11-2010, 05:14 PM #245
Anyone? Help? What's going on with not being able to view or download any apps from the modmyi source? Every other source is working fine..
09-11-2010, 05:15 PM #246
09-11-2010, 05:30 PM #247
I have tried both and I can confirm both are corrupt. They need to get a better and easer interface. I was searching some apps and I went in to app clicked screenshot but mistakenly clicked on one of the none sense adds, I could not figure it out how to come of it. I had to close and reopen cydia
09-11-2010, 05:45 PM #248
09-11-2010, 05:46 PM #249
For everyone with concerns about the MMi repo (probably the largest submitting repo to cydia) and specific app licenses, this is most likely because we're smack-dab in the transition period. The original posts stated that the transition would take about 10 days, so like most changes in jailbreak land, patience will be required while the powers-that-be make all the necessary changes. Saurik's never let us down and I'm sure he planned well on advance to handle all these issues.
09-11-2010, 07:49 PM #250
Saurik, I too have emailed, tweeted, everything you many times and have never gotten a response other than a LONG time ago when you allowed direct messaging via Twitter. Now even that's gone.
Before I begin, let me start by saying I love Cydia, better than Rock by far, and the work done on it was tremendous.. but the lack of updates is more than disappointing, and Rock has shown us what can be done. I may sound cynical in these posts, but I'm trying to relay some of the frustration using Cydia, and what needs to be improved now that it's the sole tool we will be using for 3rd party app installation.
In order for Cydia to be the tool it should be, a few things need to be changed:
1. Allow the enabling/disabling of sources without removing them. Sometimes we like having a source around, but don't want it cluttering up everything. Other times, we just want to refresh specific sources. This is not hard.
2. Better queue management. I should be able to remove one item from the queue without deleting the entire queue. This also is not hard.
3. IOS4 fixes. The red dots below Changes that says the number of updates doesn't even appear on IOS4. The "Q'd" red dot doesn't appear when a queue is present either.
4. Force options. I have installed or uninstalled more than one package that have conflicting prerequisites. I should be able to force install or force uninstall any package I want despite the requirements of the package. The potential for problems is there, but people who jailbreak and then actually use this feature usually know what they're doing. It's not your responsibility to prevent me from screwing up my phone anymore than it's Steve's responsibility to keep my impressionable eyes away from porn.
5. Continue installing after an error. Enough said. If Cydia can't download each and every package without something going wrong, my entire damn queue is lost and I have to recreate it, hoping Cydia doesn't crash along the way.. and that I left out whatever package was 'bad'. Download and then install each package individually if you have to, but don't wipe my whole queue.
6. Themes and apps need to be separated. Separate change queues, and separate info viewers. I can't stand having to click a theme based on its' name, wait for that page to load, find out where THIS particular repo has placed their screenshots or more info link, click that, wait for that to load.. it's crap. I should be able to pick a category (Springboard, SBSettings, etc) and flick through a bunch of theme screenshots and stop on the one I like.
Last but not least..
7. ADD THE ABILITY TO WIPE THE SLATE CLEAN, or reinstall Cydia. I can't tell you how many times I've had to figure out obscure pkgd commands because some damn package gets stuck while installing and corrupts everything I try to install, or manually delete some .list files because I typed in a bad repo url. There really is no recovering from some Cydia problems, and this needs to be addressed. Restoring should not be required to wipe out Cydia and APT. Just give me a nuke button (or even some complete removal instructions) and I'll re-jailbreak if that's what it takes.Anybody want a 32GB Mint Condition Black JB Unlocked 3GS? PM me with offers.
09-12-2010, 02:33 AM #251
[scrubbed because I wasn't being very nice sorry]
That said, anybody who actually is a power user should know enough to muck around with dpkg, and make this all a moot point. Power users don't /need/ their hands held.
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09-12-2010, 02:36 AM #252
I have always used Cydia and MMi as an end user and developer, but have been very disappointed in the lack of Cydia updates. How long has Cydia not updated it's badge after installation of a Respring app?
09-12-2010, 02:38 AM #253
Toyvan has said just about everything I could think of.
I've been a big supporter of both Cydia and Rock.
I've had issues with both as well. So from my user view. They are both great tools.
Oh. Jay... If you read this Winterboard needs an update to map the @2x images in UI. Just stating this once again.
Really will miss the rock Dev Portal. Now at least I'm in the blind on Cydia as a Dev.
Looking forward to the changes coming to Cydia by Jay and his staff.
Wish you all well at Rock! Thanks for the ride.
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09-12-2010, 02:40 AM #254
You leave a slow repository disabled and enable it once a month. Every other time you open Cydia it is faster to refresh, which is pretty slow at best. Simple concept, no?
09-12-2010, 02:52 AM #255
NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, does this mean I'm going to be wasting time staring at a "loading data" screen?!?!?!?
Ps. I have a iPhone 3g
09-12-2010, 03:11 AM #256
09-12-2010, 03:39 AM #257
09-12-2010, 04:24 AM #258
And seriously: WinterBoard works, and there are a ton of iPhone 4 themes that use it. If you think it doesn't work you are probably making SummerBoard themes, and I've never claimed those are something you should do, and my documentation for WinterBoard has always explained how to use Bundles to do that work correctly. There are (maybe) a few bugs in wallpapers that people are bringing up to me here, but I am actually totally and completely surprised that people are trying to use WinterBoard to apply wallpapers now that iOS 4 supports wallpapers natively... like, I almost released an upgrade to WinterBoard to completely remove wallpapers when iOS 4 came out... why is WinterBoard's iOS 4 wallpaper support somehow an issue?
(You can sort by release date by clicking Changes.)
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09-12-2010, 04:27 AM #259
Jay. There are themes that work just fine, but what we keep saying has to deal with theming ui elements. From the sound of what your saying, theming ui elements through the "uiimages" directory is a summerboard method and we should expect to not see any updates to beable to use hi res images for ui
09-12-2010, 05:09 AM #260
[email protected], so I will log in with my Google account", which means you don't get to see your old purchases. You seriously never need to contact anyone to download your stuff again on a different device.
Cydia's "license management" was so simple that you apparently got confused and thought it was hard: in Cydia, licenses are attached to your account, not your device. You just log in and you can install the application. With Rock, you had to have a bunch of machinery for "license transfer" as licenses were tied to devices.
Last edited by saurik; 09-12-2010 at 05:09 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost