Gruber vs. chpwn on Jailbreaking

[javiert30]

Come on Comex all that the people with the new iPhone 4 without SHSH need is a tool so they can downgrade iPhone 4 iOS 4.0.2 to 4.0.1 so they can jailbreak it too, I know you can doit. You are my hero.

[csglinux]

Can't tell you how annoyed I am at the ignorant comments from Gruber. Would he seriously purchase any type of PC, where he could never get root access on his own hardware and was only allowed to install programs approved of by the manufacturer? This point is so obvious. I wonder what this guys' real motivation is in making such provocative and downright stupid and insulting comments.

Right now app developers ARE getting screwed as a result of Apple's minimalist efforts to circumvent app piracy. You see why that's convenient for Apple? Because now they get to associate jailbreakers with piracy, porn, money laundering, the Mafia, terrorism, etc. Apple could address the app piracy issue, but instead prefer to simply maintain a closed OS. I do get the quality control part and wasn't impressed to find porn on my son's ipod touch (hey, Steve, I though these devices were free from porn? Turns out a quick search on the google app turns up tons of the stuff!). But quality control has never previously stopped you from customizing your own personal computer. Just because our PCs are much smaller than they used to be, why does that mean I can no longer have the root password?

[speedfreak228]

Why won't they allow themes on the AppStore? Alot of ppl would pay for it.

[newportgambler]

gruber is an apple fanboy but sometimes talks out his ***

[Freerunnering]

Daring Fireball Linked List: Nope

Just a comment on his end point.

Put another way: I know that many App Store developers wish that Apple were “fighting jailbreaking”, because App Store piracy depends upon it.

The argument that jailbreaking is bad because app piracy depends on it is a pointless case as the truth is it doesn't depend on it it just makes it easier/quicker.

Most people are now in a waiting time between jailbreaks if they have a new device or updated.
But back when there was another waiting time for jailbreaks for 3GS on 3.1+ i saw guides popping up on how to use xcode to install pirated apps on completely unjailbroken device or how to sign them to distribute to other unjailbroken devices.

Just pointing out more holes in his arguments.

[Retrolock]

If I were working for Apple and I had a huge investment in the corporation I wouldn't want anyone of you touching my goods and you making money off it and not giving anything back to me. Like what Mafia Dons would say "You *insert italian expletive here* should wet my beak, capisce?

[mortopher]

If I were working for Apple and I had a huge investment in the corporation I wouldn't want anyone of you touching my goods and you making money off it and not giving anything back to me. Like what Mafia Dons would say "You *insert italian expletive here* should wet my beak, capisce?

So you're comparing Apple to the mob? You're okay with that picture?

[Retrolock]

So you're comparing Apple to the mob? You're okay with that picture?

what's wrong with that? lol

[confucious]

I think it's an insult to the Mob. Surely they aren't as bad as Apple....

[sleeping_giant]

A well written piece. I agree with the assessment 100%.

In addition, for those who may have missed the recent August 22nd Cnet article entitled, "Apple Applies for Patent to Kill Jailbroken Devices"

http://tinyurl.com/2vmd45p

Which, if doubt still lingers, makes it crystal clear on where Cupertino stands on truly owning one's purchased device..

[Mes]

We may own the physical iDevice, but Apple wants to control 'everything' we do with it!!

[whereswaldo]

A well written piece. I agree with the assessment 100%.

In addition, for those who may have missed the recent August 22nd Cnet article entitled, "Apple Applies for Patent to Kill Jailbroken Devices"

Apple applies for patent to kill jailbroken devices | Apple - CNET News

Which, if doubt still lingers, makes it crystal clear on where Cupertino stands on truly owning one's purchased device..

That was posted on mmi a week or two ago