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08-25-2010, 07:15 PM #41
What a lot of the posters here seem to miss is that Nokia is the global leader in SMARTPHONES by a long shot. Apple may have more apps for their iDevices in iTunes but Nokia has a lot more apps across their OS portfolio. Their apps are spread out over several app sites unlike Apple's that is tightly controlled through iTunes. What OP is talking about is their attempt to reign back control of the app ecosystem and concentrate it on the OVI store.
Nokia's Global smartphone market share is 41% and has been growing quarter per quarter over the last 4 quarters. Apple and Blackberry have been on a steady decline globally over the same period.
Many of us iPhone owners have blinkers on our eyes and don't see the bigger picture beyond Apple. I have several phones so I stay up to date on everything.
Nokia also have Qt now which allows their apps to be written once and will work across several different devices from Symbian^3 (N8, C7, E7 etc.) to MeeGo(N9) and Maemo(N900). Look at Angry Birds as an example: YouTube - Bounce and Angry Birds by Rovio Developed using Nokia Qt SDK Angry Birds is available for Symbian, Maemo and MeeGo.
A smartphone like the Nokia 5800 has outsold the iPhone globally. This is something you will never hear reported in the press.
Beyond the app hype, Symbian is still the smartest smartphone OS. Tech-wise Nokia’s smartphones wipe the floor with the iPhone. Problem is marketing, which Apple has down to a T.
08-25-2010, 09:35 PM #42
Really no clue where you get those figures from zong because I have never heard that anywhere on any site before and I find it hard to believe that nokia has that much marketshare when it comes to smartphones. Nokia needs to stick to making standard phones because there done in the smartphone area. They will get crushed by google and are no competition for android or ios
08-26-2010, 09:49 PM #43
Here's an article talking about the Anti-Nokia bias in the US press. "Nokia rules the mobile phone world so why do we diss them in the US?"
Nokia rules the mobile phone world so why do we diss them in the US? | ZDNet
09-04-2010, 12:58 AM #44
ahhahaha I love how the article writer took the original article and rearranged the words. Nokia struggling to compete with Apple in the App Market makes it a struggling company? LOL
09-04-2010, 09:41 AM #45
While Nokia might outsell in terms of numbers Symbian is a dying OS and Nokia are struggling to replace it.
Nokia are, unfortunately, struggling.
Smartphone competition hits Nokia, shares dive | ReutersHe who asks a question looks foolish for 5 minutes. He who doesn't ask a question remains foolish forever.
09-04-2010, 09:57 AM #46
Just because the iPhone is big in the US, doesn't mean it's big everywhere, Nokia is still worldwide dominant. The reason Nokia reminds some of you of old phones is because they invented the first cellphone, and have been in the market the longest. They might not be on top software wise, but hardware wise I would take it over an iPhone anyday. Even their lower end phones have such good build quality.
Also, hasn't anyone heard of maemo? Nokia is staying with symbian only because they have invested so much in it and want to take it even farther, but I think maemo is the future of Nokia. It's 100% open source unlike android. Coming from a Nokia n900, I think maemo is the best mobile OS out there by far, all it needs is more support and a bigger community and you will see more apps.
09-04-2010, 10:27 AM #47
Maemo was supposed to replace the aging Symbian - but it was a flop and I think they have abandoned it.
Nokia were one of the first which is why there are so many Nokia handsets but they are all low end. The way forward for high end Smartphones (I'm sure Nokia will keep the low end and non SmartPhone market) is Apple with Android snapping at it's heels ready to overtake.He who asks a question looks foolish for 5 minutes. He who doesn't ask a question remains foolish forever.
09-04-2010, 11:55 AM #48
Also, not all Nokia phones are low end. How can you say the n900 is low end? What does the iPhone have that the n900 doesn't?
09-04-2010, 01:22 PM #49
Are you being serious?
Nokia realized that Symbian was aging and not a modern OS and beyond it's sell by date. While I may not have been strictly accurate saying Maemo was meant to replace Symbian, what I shouyld have said was replace symbian for their top end SmartPhones, they will keep Symbian for the time being on lower end models and still develop it for that market.
Maemo was a flop - there aren't many industry analysts that think otherwise. Re-branding it as Meego is more to distance itself from teh disaster that was Maemo, they have spent to much on it to abbandon it completely and will continue and hopefully one day come up with a decent OS.
To ask "What does the iPhone have that the n900 doesn't?" just goes to show you have not used both. After all, what does a Rolls Royce have that a Ford Mondeo doesn't. Try both and you will find out.
At the moment, the only serious competitor to the iPhone is Android, and I don't believe it's there yet.
I have had many phones over the years and many operating systems, I always try and get the best and have no loyalty to anyone but after considering all the options I have decided that, despite the price, the iPhone 4 is the only thing to replace my 3G.
If you think differently then your criteria for a good SmartPhone must be vastly different from mine.He who asks a question looks foolish for 5 minutes. He who doesn't ask a question remains foolish forever.
09-04-2010, 01:46 PM #50
I have tried both, I have an iPhone 4 now. It looks like you haven't tried both since you're the one who can't tell the differences. Other than software, the iPhone has no advantage over the n900 other than the capacitive vs resistive debate. Even the retina display is not too much higher than the n900's 800 by 600 display. In fact, I think the n900 has the advantages.
Also, can you please post links to the sites where you got the information that nokia is abandoning maemo. Also, which analysists declared maemo a flop? Was that fact or opinion? Not that I don't believe you, it's just that I've never heard of this before.
And your right, it is about personal preferences but that doesn't mean you can turn ur opinions into facts.
Last edited by Waleed786; 09-04-2010 at 02:00 PM.
09-04-2010, 01:56 PM #51
I never know where my information comes from - I guess I just make it up. Everything I say is my opinion only - I know no facts.