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08-10-2010, 02:13 PM #21
I think it would be great to get flash on iDevices, without having to use a 3rd party buggy software.
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08-10-2010, 02:36 PM #22
08-10-2010, 02:39 PM #23
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08-10-2010, 02:56 PM #25
^^Because Apple wants users having great user experience.
I believe all those people defending monopoly also used excuse like this.
08-10-2010, 03:13 PM #26
iPhone 4 needs flash now!!!!
08-10-2010, 03:31 PM #27
Frash is a perfect example of why flash shouldn't be incorporated into Safari. I'm fine with flash having it's own app though, but they'd have to include their own browser as well in order to maintain sandboxing and prevent the OS from crashing. In fact, flash sites in Safari, when tapped, could open up the flash app and display the flash that way. That would be an excellent solution.
08-10-2010, 03:36 PM #28
I'm al for open devices and user modding but if I made a product and chose for whatever reason to not include something I wouldn't want govermant commissions doing crap like this to me
08-10-2010, 03:54 PM #29
Well I predict that Apple will get ripped big time from the EU
Apple and Steve Jobs do not have any political clout with the EU and Eu don't like a$$holes like Steve Jobs and Bill Gates and Bill Gates will testify to that!
08-10-2010, 04:35 PM #30
Also to the Flash haters, Flash sucks on Apple OS but it works fine on my 4 year old Pentium 4 PC but Flash crashes my 2.66Ghz C2D MBP a lot. (stupid rainbow spinning ball )
08-10-2010, 05:03 PM #31
Ooooh poor Apple. I feel soooo sorry for them. They just might be forced to treat their iDevices with phone capabilities like they truly are ... a mini-computer with phone capabilities . Most people use it like a computer. Apples 200K+ applications prove it's a computer. Thank goodness someone is looking into Apples highly restrictive policies and their spin-machine propaganda.
08-10-2010, 05:19 PM #32
I think that since iOS is Apple's software they can do what they want. Sort of like the catagory of console units and they have control of what goes into the os and what doesn't.
08-10-2010, 05:26 PM #33
08-10-2010, 05:49 PM #34
Why the hell would Adobe release their software in Cydia, that would just ruin their whole reputation.
Adobe's not gonna do all that **** load of work making flash compatible with iDevices just to get rejected by Apple again, so until Steve Jobs clearly says "Adobe we will allow you to put flash on our devices, get to work" Adobe's not gonna do ****.
So stop whining.
08-10-2010, 05:57 PM #35
Nobody owns the iOS but Apple. You own the hardware and lease the OS. The problem then is that you can't do much with the hardware because it was made for 1 OS. Much like the consoles, you own hardware but lease OS.
08-10-2010, 06:06 PM #36
Argument about going Cydia way is invalid, in order to have Cydia it must be JB. Even though JB and unlock is legal now, JB voids warranty. People who do not want to void their warranty would not have access to something they want.
08-10-2010, 06:24 PM #37
For anyone who doesn't understand the technical side of it, flash is a bloated, unsecured web plugin that renders video or script inside your browser. It uses cpu resources and battery life well over the need for a plugin. It's like running an app inside an app. Flash crashes on linux and OSX are well known and to be perfectly honest, I hate it. Adobe have had a protected ride for a very long time thanks to MS pushing it out on every OS since windows 95. Flash on your browser opens up a great big hole into your computer system just waiting for a hacker to enter without your knowledge.
Now we have better technology that works using the browser itself to render content (html5, css script etc), no bloated plugin that hogs cpu and drains battery life. That's more efficient and far more secure. I can't understand how the EU could be questioning apple on anti competitive practice when MS and adobe have been doing this for decades. They killed netscape for cryin out loud. I don't trust adobe to code anything stable, oh it may look stable, but it's not. Ongoing (several years of) security issues with flash and acrobat should make anyone shudder.
My friend has a macbook pro and she watches flash video on video shack every night. The fan kicks in at full bore and her battery is dead in 2 hours. She had to replace her battery within 2 years well under the life span. A tech friend told her, "yep, flash will fry your battery very quickly".
You'll get a lot of flash fanboys here sticking up for flash because they just love playing free flash games, but honestly, they're living in the past. It's time to enter the 21st century not hold on to old and crappy technology. Like the floppy disc, flash will eventually follow, because adobe are lazy and arrogant. Ask any linux guy what they think of flash.
I don't use it on my linux machine anymore and if I was making a device, I wouldn't want flash on it either.
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08-10-2010, 09:50 PM #38
what he said....cause I'm way too tired....death to flash, it's old, bloated, a power hog, insecure, unstable on all but one platform(so if interoperability is a priority I'd get on that adobe ;-) ) and in general an outdated closes POS...move along people...HTML 5 + CSS + JS are on the way!!!
08-10-2010, 09:59 PM #39
OK, Adobe made Flash on Mac perform like a piece of crap. Flash on iPhone? Oh god... Why does the iPhone need Flash? It is just gonna eat your RAM, open up vulnerabilities, and eat your battery.
What's the point of getting involved? It's their device and operating system, not yours. They can reject anything they want.Asking for help is different from being stupid. Fanboys can rot in @#$%!
08-11-2010, 07:20 AM #40
I once prayed to God for an iPhone, but quickly found out He didn't work that way...so I stole an iPhone and prayed for His forgiveness.
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