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07-27-2010, 07:45 AM #61
Great article! Very insightful to those who are ignorant to the jailbreaking community and concept. Question though, is it still illegal to root android phones and also, did google ever have a problem with it before the EFF? Just curious.
07-27-2010, 07:47 AM #62
Oh and you could have just put iPhone is boring without a jailbreak. At least anything other than the iPhone 4. And even that is only not boring with the wallpaper but then you have the dull ui on the rest of the phone
07-27-2010, 07:56 AM #63
This is a great article and this is a great victory to the jailbreaking community. Slowly, we are helping to further what is possible with mobile devices instead of restricting it like Apple has been doing with the App Store. Grated, the App Store is an incredible interface and market... I feel if the additional apps the jailbreak devs put out could have access to the App Store, we could accelerate the growth of technology in mobile devices that much faster. Then again, the day Jobs approves the Cydia App is the day we'll probably all have network cards embedded into our necks, and hopefully by then, we wont have to use a USB to sync our media to our brains! (where would you plug it in? OOohh gross... you people make me sick! )
07-27-2010, 08:20 AM #64
this is great, but we need this in the uk, our courts will be likely to follow suit though
07-27-2010, 08:45 AM #65
Once it became clear that a phone that is a little computer is basically the same as a big computer, Apple's argument lost any credence. Their argument over installing apps never made logical sense (except as a way to make money by controlling the app process), as anyone with a big computer understood the fallacy of it. As for unlocking, that provision was included in the last "consumer's rights" bill, which stated that all phones should work on all systems so we would have portability after our plans ran out. It has just not been implemented. I would expect a lawyer to be filing suit over that fairly soon.
As to WHY Apple took their indefensible stance in the first place, I can't say. It seems shortsighted, and, I hate to say, stupid. They were going to lose, whether in court or, probably to their great surprise, here. Why they would go to all the trouble is beyond me. Short-term gain? I DIDN'T buy an iPhone originally because it offered less "phone" features than my RAZR. When I did buy one (a 3G), I jailbroke it to put custom sounds in the alerts (really, Apple, "beep" for email, text, calendar?). I read that jailbreakers had defeated that lockout, bought a phone, jailbroke it, and installed ToneFXs. Without jailbreak, I wouldn't have bought the phone or Apple apps for it. So they made money (from me) due to the existence of jailbreak. BTW, I have been posting on Apple Discussions/sending requests to Apple for two years my desire for this feature (universal ringtones on all alerts). Apple's response? Apple mods warn me and/or delete my posts and Apple has neither responded to my requests nor implemented this universality. Which they could clearly do, since I can do it by SSH or a simple app.
I like Apple products, I've been using them for a long time, have owned numerous iMacs/iBooks/MacBookPros, have had two iPhones and will get a third when the jb is released for 4, own stock in Apple, and I can only hope they finally get their heads out of their butts over this. Many jb features have been included in newer iterations of the iPhone OS. This, to me, is like American car manufactures implementing tweaks home racers invented to make their cars faster/better into production models. It only makes the brand better. If Apple were"smart," they would embrace this community and use it to their advantage. THAT would make sense.Senior
07-27-2010, 08:46 AM #66
I think piracy is why people think jailbreaking is bad, when kids at my school find out I have a jailbroken iPod touch, they as me what free apps I have. They think jailbreaking is all about piracy and the app that shall not be named. Most apps are free or 99 cents, this isn't hundred dollar software, just buy it
07-27-2010, 08:48 AM #67
MyWi is awesome for sure. It's a violation of your at&t contract terms though... so it's not 'authorized.' They aren't going to put you in jail or sue you for using it. If at&t finds out, then they could charge you for that use or terminate your contract.
I use MyWi every once in a while though and it's an amazing convenience. So much of a convenience that I won't move to iOS 4 on my 3GS until I can get a guaranteed jailbreak.
And as far as reasons NOT to jailbreak... as I've told Kyle, it's not the legality of it, it's Apple's warranty support. I'm one of those nervous people that doesn't want to have an iDevice break under warranty and be denied service/repair on it just because I wanted a piece of extra software for added convenience.
The convenience would have to outweigh the cost of the device at that point. That's why my 3GS is jailbroken and my 64GB 3G iPad is not!
What would be great would be if they could then force Apple to honor warranties on jailbroken devices.
07-27-2010, 09:00 AM #68
There is an application that allows for pirated apps to be installed on an iDevice. But it is not the jailbreaking community's fault that people put pirated software on their iDevices.
Just like guns don't kill people, people kill people, jailbreaking doesn't cause piracy, thieving people cause piracy.
07-27-2010, 09:11 AM #69
Good post PF
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07-27-2010, 09:33 AM #72
Hopefully this clears up why the majority of people jailbreak. It kills me when someone says, 'We all jailbreak for free apps...'
07-27-2010, 09:33 AM #73
Not a fan of Illegal apps !!! Big fan of Jail Breaking
07-27-2010, 09:36 AM #74
Here's something to be excited about, guys! How long before companies start popping up that can accomodate, and profit, from having a jailbreak/ unlock available for all devices?
07-27-2010, 09:45 AM #75
good post, jailbreaking is just using the full capacity of the device, that we have purchased.
07-27-2010, 09:50 AM #76
07-27-2010, 10:06 AM #77
^ so true
07-27-2010, 10:07 AM #78
Well. Just maybe now Apple won't patch the holes and our JB will last indefinitely. No reason to delay the release. Unless the devs are still having Facetime issues. But, what the hell. Apple should just help them out now.
07-27-2010, 10:12 AM #79
Thanks Kyle. Long live jailbreak!!!!
07-27-2010, 10:30 AM #80
Downgradeing my iPhone with out SHSH shouldn't be an issue now