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Originally Posted by evolutionarymc I think Apple is doing exactly what they should be in this situation. They acknowledge an issue, butter up their return policy, offer free case/bumper, and...
07-25-2010, 02:33 PM #61
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07-25-2010, 02:42 PM #63
its not right that Apple keeps bashing other phones. Although people need to STOP talking crap about the iphone 4 and look into their crappy phones
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07-25-2010, 02:48 PM #65
Guess which is the only smartphone that has had issues???? Yep, the Iphone 4.
I also work in IT and have used may other Cingular/att, blackberry, and other various smartphones.
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07-25-2010, 02:53 PM #66
07-25-2010, 02:59 PM #67
What keeps apple's iPhone so popular compared to the other smartphones is that it has a grat UI and very simple and easy to use.
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07-25-2010, 03:33 PM #70
My butt hurts
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07-25-2010, 04:19 PM #71
It's definitely fair that Apple showed people that other phones have problems. They seem to have gone a little bit far with the whole thing though.
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07-25-2010, 04:26 PM #72
do we REALLY need to report on the subject of Apple's bashing of other phones
07-25-2010, 04:55 PM #73Shut the **** up apple fan boys.
now if for the features and what not you deem the iphone better for your situation, good for you. but stop being a little ******* apple fan boy *****. the evo is infront of the curve when it comes to smart phones, and im sorry to inform you, but the iphone is behind.
it is widely noted that all featured iphone continually puts into its phone, are stolen. are stolen from other phones and developers, apple makes improvements to there phone on the backs of 3rd party developers and free developers that make apps for the iphone to function better.
copy past, was and app before iphone thought of it, phones have been coming out with better cameras long before apple, back ups, faster syncing, so on and so forth.
you people disgust me (fan boys) your worst that ******* hipsters.
now before some one ******* at me thinking I cant afford apple products so i must hate them...
I have an imac, a macbook pro, and yes and iphone. hmm why do i have all these apple products you may ask, because of my ******* industry and what i do with them. like i stated, apple has its time and place, and if your not a ******* fan boy zombie, i will respect your decision to buy apple or not.
07-25-2010, 05:09 PM #74
I ordered mine and a few days later the Death Grip was brought into view!
Several times I started to cancel my order but I also read that not all phones had this problem so I did not cancel!
When I got my Iphone 4 this is the first thing I tested once it was activated!
I hope your's is ok when you get it!
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I once prayed to God for an iPhone, but quickly found out He didn't work that way...so I stole an iPhone and prayed for His forgiveness.
A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than you love yourself. - Josh Billings
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07-25-2010, 05:37 PM #78
"Although there isn't "much" problem except the antenna. geezz!" I can't believe you said this. The reason you are so oblivious to the other problems is because you have allowed yourself to be so easily distracted.
Hold your tongue and stop parroting anything Apple tells you. Apple is lucky... DAMN lucky, that people focused on this "death grip" nonsense because it allowed them to focus on responding to it and distract everyone from the real problems. For their typical apologists, their distraction (proof of the industry-wide "death grip" phenomenon) has somehow turned into something to PRAISE Apple for. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?!
Now I'll put on my tin-foil hat and go into not-so-far-fetched conspiracy theories, but I'm pretty sure that there is an element of truth to it: There is no way that the face sensor and BT problems weren't known during field testing. It was a deliberate attempt to have an issue that jailbreakers will want to fix and possibly forgo their jailbreak so that Apple can release the fix with the blocked jailbreak after the hackers have played their cards. Because DevTeam called their bluff at launch and witheld the jailbreak, the antennagate hoopla has given Apple one more opportunity to delay something they obviously already had. They clearly hoped that the jailbreak would be released after their cosmetic-only firmware update (4.0.1 only changed the display of the signal strength) so that they could block it in their more substantial update.
Apple wants their devices to be disposable and enforce an upgrade cycle. It's why the 3G slowed down with each iPhone OS/iOS upgrade. It's why there is no removable battery. It's why there is no expandable memory. I don't blame them because they are in a position to do that (nothing wrong with making money), but when they start LYING, THEN I mind.
Like when they said that A2DP/AVRCP wasn't enabled in the original iPhone with iOS3 because the hardware was different, implying that it was incompatible. Nope. The FW just checks the version of the phone and disables it, similar to the numeric battery indicator on the 3GS and lack of it on the 3G and earlier (just edit the settings file manually and it's there!). There's an unofficial app that simply enables A2DP with NO changes to support the "different hardware" at all, catching Apple in their lie. Same goes for AVRCP. Many people don't notice that it supports AVRCP Play/Pause/Stop commands. Instead, they believe that it doesn't support it at all thanks to the complete lack of the much more useful AVRCP Next/Previous Track functions. Apple's official statement? "Unsupported." Well, Music Controls, another unofficial app, fixes that nice and easily, but the real reason for it not being there is simple: Apple gets paid royalties when a remote control dock interfaces with the dock connector. There would be none paid to them if the same docks started using A2DP/AVRCP to interface with iPod Touch and iPhone. Simple. It was only a matter of time/volume before phone functions because more important than iPod functions, so it is expected to finally arrive officially with iOS 4.1.
Another example is iOS4 not running on the original iPhone "because it's too slow." Umm, the original iPhone has the exact same perfomance specs as the iPhone 3G except for the ability to connect to a 3G tower. If using it on T-Mobile or in an area without 3G coverage, they are functionally the same phone. So, tell me again: Why did the iPhone 3G get iOS4 and not the original iPhone? Oh yes... because they've all reached their contractual obligations and can be forced to upgrade their phone for all the apps that now require iOS4, many of which are the same apps they have been using all along. How do you excuse something like that, Mr. Apologist?
Reason. I remember an Apple apologist saying that the 3G still didn't have A2DP at launch because it "wasn't good enough" for Steve Jobs. OK, well how did it suddenly become "good enough" at the launch of iPhone OS 3.0? Oh, how I wish I could ask him that question directly.
Edit: I forgot to mention this... Apple pretended to be so honest when they revealed that the dropped call rate was worse than the 3GS despite the "superior" antenna design. They said there there was less than one additional dropped call per hundred calls. Without the substantial increase in calls that were ended by the face sensor and re-established, the dropped call rate would be a lot more than that. That's another pretty good reason to allow it into the market with such an issue.
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07-25-2010, 05:47 PM #79
I really don't care if other phones have the death grip issue. I care that the iPhone 4 does. To admit that your product is flawed and then point out other manufacturers flawed products is absolutely ludicrous. You have a bad phone. Own up to it, fix it, and then point at your competition. I have an upgrade that is itching to be used on an iPhone 4, but Apple's antics have made me gun-shy.
07-25-2010, 06:09 PM #80
If the iPhone 5 design goes away from this "outer antenna band" design that would be more fuel for the fire that something was wrong with the design.
I wonder what the people that defended the iPhone 4's design will have to say then? People, fueled by Apple's silliness, have been overlooking the videos that show you can cause the death grip effect by putting the base of your thumb on the left corner of the phone.
I do not know of anyone that talks on their phone using the grips shown on the antenna page.
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