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06-30-2010, 12:37 PM #21
Verizon iPhone out there in the wild?
Per the post:
"Before you get all excited, it's important to note that the chart above likely refers to iPhone users connecting via Verizon DSL or FiOS"
so where else is the proof of a Verizon iPhone in the wild as you pointed out?
I too think it will be T-Mobile since they will have an iPhone in the UK pretty soon:
iPhone 4 Coming to T-Mobile in UK
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06-30-2010, 12:37 PM #22
Apple stock will jump like crazy.
06-30-2010, 12:38 PM #23
Also remember Verizon has a big coverage area. To get LTE going they will most likely start with big cities. Thus leaving all the outer areas and middle America with CDMA for voice and EVDO for data until they can get LTE to more areas. It is going to be a slow rollout once Verizon has the big cities covered. This also helps them make sure their network will work properly. Can you imagine them paying to cover all of America where they have plentiful CDMA and EVDO coverage? It would cost an astronomical amount and give them little time to test things against real world use.
Also EVDO is still being rolled out to certain parts of America (and how long has it been out?). Common business sense people, I mean come on..."To unpathed waters, undreamed shores." -- William Shakespeare
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06-30-2010, 12:55 PM #24
Captain verizon strikes again
06-30-2010, 12:55 PM #25
I'm simply saying... previous VZW rumors, I shrugged off. But Bloomberg is a highly regarded business news source, I don't think they would publish a "rumor" unless it had some SERIOUS backing. So I'm on board and believe that the VZW iPhone WILL be released in 2011.
And to the one who commented on the mobile browsing Verizon iPhone, I didn't know that that speculation was shut down.
Still, Steve Jobs usually touted and praised their affiliation with AT&T in his keynotes... this time around, nothing. Only mentioned AT&T for early upgrades.
I think Steve Jobs is trying to pull around from its affiliation with AT&T. It makes sense since AT&T has been getting bad press. He's going to push to sell the PHONE and not the network, as it once was.
I'm sure you are all sick of the VZW rumors. I am too. I'm not gonna pretend to not be one of the people who looks on this front page, sees the damn Verizon logo and mumbles "here we go again", then foam at the mouth. But with big dogs tossing their sources into it, this is shaping more and more to be legit. I felt this way when the iPhone 4 was leaked. So I'm going with that feeling this time around.
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06-30-2010, 01:07 PM #26
I dnt see Apple creating a device on Verizon that has less functionality than the AT&T version, Apple themselves have made commercials showing the iPhone using talk/data at the same time, currently this is impossible on Verizon without wifi.
Only time will tell but I'm convinced that if Apple wouldn't make a CDMA model for China, then I doubt they'd do it for a much smaller Verizon if it's all about revenue stream.
06-30-2010, 01:10 PM #27
If you look at it from a business point if view, apple would be insane to not bring the iPhone to verizon. They want to dominate the market, and make billions of dollars...bringing the iPhone to verizon, and AT&T will do this, it's kinda a no brainer.
As for all the people who don't want it to go to verizon...why do u feel that way? As a current AT&T/iPhone user, I only see good things if this happens. I would love it if all my friends had iPhones, I could use FaceTime, play games, shared apps...etc. It would be awesome! But right now that can't happen because ALL my friends have verizon. Also, both AT&T would start to compete even more for our business, which could mean better pricing and better service.
I personally will stay with AT&T, they have always been good to me. But i really wouldn't mind Verizon getting the iPhone!
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06-30-2010, 01:23 PM #28
Apple isn't going to push a phone without all the features it intends to have (data access while in a phone call) maybe when verizon deploys LTE and covers more than 50% of the nation with it we'll see some development on their carrier. So until then, keep dreaming.
06-30-2010, 01:23 PM #29
First of all I don't believe for a minute that Verizon would be the one to announce this. Apple would be the one to announce it. But regardless, this all sounds great. Now can we please shut the hell up about it until January. When it doesn't get announced by anyone. LET IT GO ALREADY!
06-30-2010, 01:33 PM #30
I know that this always pops up about once a month but now I am seeing this on my local news and the national news....not just on modmyi or other internet sources.
I am by no means saying that its going happen 100% but it seems that the "rumors" are now gaining some momentum/possible credibility.
We will obviously have to wait and see what happens. I personally think Apple would not want to pass up the opportunity to expand and increase its customer/client base. I hope it does come to fruition. Ive had AT&T forever and I am tired of the Deathstar thinking its top dog with just one single phone. I have had numerous iphones and I like it alot but I am also not naive enough to think its literally the BEST phone or that it always will be as I like many different things about many phones and their OS.
Just my 2 cents...
06-30-2010, 01:44 PM #31
Now Verizon customers will know how it feels to stand in long lines waiting for the iPhone.
06-30-2010, 01:46 PM #32
Verizon is in the Android bandwagon. This is simply bit happening until the AT&T contract runs out in 2 years as it has been reported over and over and over again.
Though I am surprised no one has tried taken the approach of "that's why AT&T allowed anyone with an upgrade this year to get an iPhone 4".
ATT has done a superb job not collapsing under the weight of iPhone users alone while making improvements (see the 3.5g thread).
06-30-2010, 01:52 PM #33
i could care less, im not going back to verizon. im under contract regardless.
06-30-2010, 01:56 PM #34
Not to mention the lack of being able to web browse and talk on the phone using verizons network!!! What would be the point of our beloved iPhones?? Verizon needs to get lost!!
06-30-2010, 02:12 PM #35
verizon and apple, never
I doubt Verizon will get the iPhone anytime soon. Verizon rejected Apple because Apple wanted to much control over the phone. When Verizon gets a phone they want to have complete control over it. Also apple gets around $10 a month from every customer that uses the iPhone on ATT. Verizon is will likely never share revenues with apple, Apple demands way to much from the network.
Also it is very likely Verizon will also adopt tiered data plans because no carrier wants its users to lag up the network by downloading things. Either that or they will reduce your data speeds. they can't afford to have your rape the network by watching movies all day long. Just think if everyone was doing it. Nobody could make a call. Especially when a lot more people are buying smartphones a tiered plan is coming, stop denying it.
06-30-2010, 02:27 PM #36
early termination fee all the way!
06-30-2010, 02:51 PM #37
When it comes to data coverage areas, current CDMA based technologies are inferior when there are a lot of users simply because of how signals are handled by them (not refering to LTE or even HSPA+). All users share the entire alloted spectrum which gives great speeds - until you share them with a hundred others. Furthermore the more users in a particular area, the more codes a site will need to assign to them so they can share the spectrum leading to a higher noise floor which in turn leads to less coverage because the phone will have a harder time distinguishing its code from all the rest.
On the otherhand even to get the iPhone on T-Mobile, Apple will need to add or modify the Iphones radios to work on T-Mobile UMTS bands. There is no sense to have an awesome phone that can only do Edge.
I believe Verizon (or any carrier) will need serious upgrades to handle 12M iphones properly. AT&T would have a great network if it weren't for all the iphones. With the current demand for iPhone 4 the way it is; it's very unlikely for anyone to get it by 2011. Not even a smart move for Apple because it wouldn't be able to keep up with the orders. Sorry for the long post - just my two cents.
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06-30-2010, 02:55 PM #38
Anything is possible but I don't see it. Nor do I see Apple saying adios AT&T and moving to Verizon. So that would mean there would be an AT&T iphone & a Verizon iPhone. If it's not going to be dual data and voice I don't see Apple going that route. I could see them hooking up with the iPad though for data.
Don't really know how to word this but that would make the iphone loose some of it's as SJ would say magic to me It's bad enough you see tons of iphones already. If they were on Verizon also it would lose it's appeal of being an exclusive phone, that other carriers want but can't get and it's great at what it does but I'd probably try one of the other phones just to stand out a little from the group I hand with.
06-30-2010, 03:16 PM #39
who really cares at this point? All a Verizon iphone will do is put an iphone in more hands than before. If you guys think ATT and APPLE have a death grip on what you do with your phone service, wait until you deal with Verizon. Their network would be slow at times too if they have 7 million iphone customers loading up their network.
This story is lame already....but i will jump on stock shares and open up a Verizon store if it was the case...lol Hey, money is green.
06-30-2010, 03:20 PM #40
At the top of the Bloomberg article it says; and I quote, "Updates with comment from AT&T, RIM in seventh paragraph." But the only comment is 'no comment', lol.
-The 7th Paragraph:
"Peter Thonis, a spokesman for Verizon Communications, and Mark Siegel, an AT&T spokesman, declined to comment. Tenille Kennedy, a spokeswoman for Research in Motion Ltd., didnít return a call seeking comment."
Just found it a bit funny.