Death Grip Lawsuit Coming?

[zturn13]

I think its to early to be sueing apple its been what a week since they released it give them some time to fix it almost any new tech has problems when they come out some minor some major just look at the 360!

[DeviantGeek]

I think its to early to be sueing apple its been what a week since they released it give them some time to fix it almost any new tech has problems when they come out some minor some major just look at the 360!

great point.

[Moosestache]

I think its to early to be sueing apple its been what a week since they released it give them some time to fix it almost any new tech has problems when they come out some minor some major just look at the 360!

That is definitely true, however, the clock is ticking for the 30 day return period. It is sort of a catch 22, trust apple to fix the phone and wait, or return it now. Or sue the living crap out of them...Hahahahahh!!!!!

[zturn13]

That is definitely true, however, the clock is ticking for the 30 day return period. It is sort of a catch 22, trust apple to fix the phone and wait, or return it now. Or sue the living crap out of them...Hahahahahh!!!!!

LOL true well if they don't fix it then on day 29 they will have a ton of returns!

[jdad]

does the 30 days start from when you pre-ordered the phone (if you did), or when you received the phone on the 24th??

[Radex]

What a joke! People can't work for a living they have to sue everyone in the states lol.

A bit unnecessary and very incompetent and immature.

If such a problem exists and it becomes widespread, then there may be truth in it. Just because it may not necessarily happen to you (and I'm saying this to anyone in general), doesn't mean it is not happening to anyone else.

Eh, hopefully my cousin could wait before buying the iPhone 4 until this hysteria is over <_<.

[blainesill]

Leaked: Apple’s internal iPhone 4 antenna troubleshooting procedures Boy Genius Report)

Doesn't look like there's going to be a fix, if this is true.

[Dayvidpriddy]

It's funny how you all posted on other topics about how Apple needs to do something about the reception issue (you were having problems then) but now that lawyers are threatening to sue (as I said they would on the forums) everyone is now against it and is acting like they have no reception issues. Whatever...talk about being a fanboy!

Not only do I continue to have reception issues, my damn Wi-Fi won't stay connected either and is getting slower download speeds then 3G is! Nope, it's not my network either, all my other gadgets are working just fine...it's the damn phone people! Stop *** kissing Steve Jobs would ya?

Sure I could return the phone but I don't want to return it, I want Apple to take responsibility and fix the problems already.

[ancient]

Well I am getting the reception problem....and the local apple store also has the problem on 2 of their demo phones...!

[newhacker00001]

I think the more relevant issue with apple is them taking the liberty of "collecting" our personal information and sending updates to disable the phone if they see seething they do not "approve of"

[zYxMa]

I loose signal as well. If someone says that we are exaggerating, well no comment.

How do you think it was noticed at the first time? Yeah, just got a phone delivered. Let's hold it in a left hand and watch the bars. Ohh look! They dropped!

It is obviously noticeable. I can't stop thinking about it because I loose signal all the time! When texting, browsing etc... We're not doing it purposely!

I almost forgot - it is called jealousy syndrome :]

[dhamien]

This is why some people around the world dislike Americans. Some of you have a habit of suing over the most pointless things.

If you aren't happy with the way the phone works, just return it. It's that simple. There is no fix on the way, nothing about the phone will change. Steve Jobs already said so. So if you're not satisfied, return it. Maybe the rest of us will then get a chance to get the phone sooner.

[mlauth]

If i have low signal say one bar and cover the black strip it drops all connection. If i have more than one bar I don't have a problem. Over dropped calls, i have not dropped a call yet. I keep waiting for the call to drop one day, but nothing to date.

[mvangogh]

i travel for business and have tried the "death grip" in multiple cities. in some it has no affect and in others it does. very weird.

[mtb29er]

Well I have a little bit to share. First i sent a email to the Law Firm That is suen' apple to put my 2 cents in about this ridicules law suit thinking I would never get a reply but guess what I did. I also went to apple store today to get this "Cure all bumper" and i did get it free even after I told them I dont mind paying for it. Im not one to try and get something for nothing.if I do the "death Grip" with it on the signal does not go down.So im ok with that until they find a permanent fix.

[nicksti]

If you have a reception problem, and it's a deal-breaker, all you have to so is return it for a full refund. Even if, in worst-case scenario, it was a bait & switch, everyone has the right to get your money back and buy a different phone.

If I buy a coffee-maker, and I don't like how the coffee tastes, I don't need to sue Mr. Coffee, I just get my money back.

I'm all for lawyers when they're really needed, but this reeks of being conjured by lawyers for lawyers.

That is not analogous to the issue at hand. Imagine if you bought a Coffee Maker to brew coffee (bought a cell phone to make calls) and the Coffee Maker would lose 50% of the coffee in it when you held the handle in a natural grip then what would you do?

The consumer does not profit monetarily from these kinds of class action lawsuits so there is no greed factor involved. This kind of action helps to raise awareness. Imagine if you were having this problem and did not know why because companies do not readily admit wrong-doing, then a public notice would go around that would enlighten you these issues.

It is not about people being silly or petty. If you were wrongfully dismissed from your job I doubt you would accept someone saying just get another job.

[Moosestache]

Well I have a little bit to share. First i sent a email to the Law Firm That is suen' apple to put my 2 cents in about this ridicules law suit thinking I would never get a reply but guess what I did. I also went to apple store today to get this "Cure all bumper" and i did get it free even after I told them I dont mind paying for it. Im not one to try and get something for nothing.if I do the "death Grip" with it on the signal does not go down.So im ok with that until they find a permanent fix.

What if they don't find a permanent fix?

[dhamien]

That is not analogous to the issue at hand. Imagine if you bought a Coffee Maker to brew coffee (bought a cell phone to make calls) and the Coffee Maker would lose 50% of the coffee in it when you held the handle in a natural grip then what would you do?

The consumer does not profit monetarily from these kinds of class action lawsuits so there is no greed factor involved. This kind of action helps to raise awareness. Imagine if you were having this problem and did not know why because companies do not readily admit wrong-doing, then a public notice would go around that would enlighten you these issues.

It is not about people being silly or petty. If you were wrongfully dismissed from your job I doubt you would accept someone saying just get another job.

That's also a bad analogy. If you lose half your cup of coffee, you've lost something. If you talk to someone on the phone, you won't feel a difference if it's 100% reception or 50%. The talk is what is valuable, not the "cleanness" of the sound. If half the words were cut from the conversation, then the analogy would work, but that's not the case here.

In any case, the guy you quoted is still right. If you bought a coffee maker where half the coffee was lost just by holding the cup, then you'd return it and get your money back. You wouldn't sue anyone.

[Moosestache]

In any case, the guy you quoted is still right. If you bought a coffee maker where half the coffee was lost just by holding the cup, then you'd return it and get your money back. You wouldn't sue anyone.

Well thats not quite right. If you really loved the coffee the maker made, and you were told, gee just wait a little while and we will have a fix that makes it work correctly, so you held onto that coffee maker, because you trusted that the company would make it work the way it should in a little while, and boy that coffee sure is good, I'm sure they will do the right thing and fix it, while your warranty ran out. Then you figured out, the only thing the company was going to do was make you spend $35 to buy a smaller coffee cup and tell you there problem is all fixed.

Then you sue them.

Hows that for an analogy?

[ClerkDante]

If you really loved the coffee the maker made, and you were told, gee just wait a little while and we will have a fix that makes it work correctly, so you held onto that coffee maker, because you trusted that the company would make it work the way it should in a little while, and boy that coffee sure is good, I'm sure they will do the right thing and fix it, while your warranty ran out.

Apple has made no statement even remotely like that. They aren't promising anything at this point, let alone the implied sneaky act of intentionally dragging it out until your warranty expires. Let's remember this IS a company who routinely covers products well beyond warranty time as a service to it's customers.

Then you figured out, the only thing the company was going to do was make you spend $35 to buy a smaller coffee cup and tell you there problem is all fixed.

Then you sue them.

Hows that for an analogy?

It's frankly a rather terrible one. The damn things been out a week for god's sake. Try owning an Xbox 360. My launch unit has been swapped/repaired 4 different times, and every one took massive escalation on my part to get it covered by the company.

Is there a problem? Appears to be (though likely affecting a much smaller percentage than all the complaining would seemingly imply), but for god's sake people, give a company who has a very strong track record of doing the right thing some time to, in fact, do the right thing.

And again, if you're still unhappy, just return the damn thing, or better yet, sell it on the net for a profit ($700 is a helluva lot more than the $1.09 you'll get from the lawsuit) and go back to your 3GS and get on with your life.

It's just a cell phone people. Suing because of signal issues a week after launch, when returning/selling is a very viable option, is among the most absurd things I've heard in ages.

At least the original whiney hippies had real things to rally around.