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04-28-2010, 06:35 PM #21
How was the prototype stolen? It was clearly left behind in a bar. A patron found it and realized it might be the prototype to the 4G and contacted Gizmodo. Yes, he used the opportunity to make money on the discovery. Would I have done that? No, I would have turned it over to the police.
I remember reading somewhere that the prototype iPhone 4G could not be accessed. It was either locked or had the "Restore to iTunes" on the screen. Gizmodo took pictures of the prototype and returned it to Apple.
This is an overreaction by Apple and an over abusive response by the police and DA. They literally broke down Gizmodo's house door, confiscated his servers, computers, iPhone and iPad devices. Wow! Gizmodo is supposed to be protected by the California journalist shield law. Unless the patron really stole the prototype 4G and Gizmodo was aware of this, I am in Gizmodo’s corner.
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04-28-2010, 08:05 PM #22
04-28-2010, 08:15 PM #23
I hope gizmodo gets screwed. We all know that if you find something that 1) you did not pay for (making that thing, COMPLETELY not yours to begin with, 2) you know WHO it belongs to (and decide not to give it back until you have used it till your hearts content), and 3) SELL IT TO SOMEONE THAT IS GOING TO SHOW THE WORLD THE SECRET (which you know is not yours to give up), then you should have done the right thing and given the phone back to the person. In this case, we are all adults (atleast some of us) and we were taught the difference between right and wrong and we all know the definition of stealing. Taking something that is not yours and making it yours. The guy should have just turned it into the bar as a lost phone. Then Gizmodo decided to buy the phone, knowing that it WAS A STOLEN PROTOTYPE, whether they thought it was a fake or not, does not take away from the fact that they thought it was FROM APPLE AND THAT IT SEEMED (TO THEM) TO BE THE NEXT GEN IPHONE.
I say FRY them all!!!!!
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04-28-2010, 08:38 PM #24
It doesn't even matter what Gizmodo did was just or not just, he would being suing because what the police did is apparently illegal. If he is protected by law for being a blogger, then why did the police raid his house. This article says the police knew about the shield law, so what options were they weighing out? They had none.You don't like the iPad because you don't have one!
04-28-2010, 08:50 PM #25Question
Ok guys what am i missing why did the police take his stuff if the only property he had of apples is the phone and he returned it.
if the phone is in the public EYE (can be seen) it is no longer SSI INFO so apple can take a flying leap they have no leg to stand on but piles of our cash....
04-28-2010, 08:53 PM #26
I cant believe some people are siding with apple. Brainwashed are we?
04-28-2010, 08:53 PM #27
apple is fast growing monster and in near future we wight depend on apples products.
04-28-2010, 09:55 PM #28
Apple will settle this out of court.
To be honest, I wouldnt be surprised if it comes back that Apple used some exaggerated language (normal folk call it lying) in its police report in order to bring about the reaction they were looking for. If all that happened was that he HAD the "stolen" property, but had returned it, apparently to the satisfaction of apple because there were several days between the return and the seizure, then there is absolutely NO reason, under any circumstances, that any police department would have the right to perform such an act. At that point it is only heresay, which would not (normally) be enough to even obtain a warrant. Then to actually break down his door while he was away, yeah, thats a party foul.
The only way apple doesnt lose this is if they settle out of court, but theyd still lose because its still an unofficial admission of guilt/wrongdoing on Apple's part.EVGA P55LE Mobo/Core [email protected]/Corsair H50
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04-28-2010, 10:19 PM #29
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04-28-2010, 10:23 PM #30
Just based off of what is right..
I think the kid should be charged with theft, but not put into prison. But then again if he was asking for $5000 then he damn well knew what he had was very very valuable. So it's not the same as finding and selling a normal phone. It's more like finding and selling someones car. .
GIZMODO on the other hand paid big bucks for a product they pretend they didn't know was an authentic 4G but who will pay $5000 for a possible fake. And if they knew it was a 4G then what gave them the right to tear it down?
What if they stole/found a nuclear warhead? Is it okay to say we tried calling the government but no one believed me so I tore it down and shared it's private innards with the world? Of course not.
Just because you hate apple doesn't mean you should defend Gizmodo... They are no good theives in my eyes.
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04-28-2010, 11:00 PM #31
I hope Gizmodo takes this all the way, the more bad press for Apple, the better! The world needs to be more informed about what a gang of arrogant scumbags Apple really is.Praise the Devs! To each and every one of you who spend your time writing code and making apps for little or no profit... Its YOU that makes the iPhone great, NOT Apple!! From me to you, a million thanks!!
04-28-2010, 11:02 PM #32
04-29-2010, 12:37 AM #33
i would sue them for ransacking my house and taking my ****
04-29-2010, 01:46 AM #34
I hope Apple get their asses sued off for this. Whatever takes Steve down a few pegs would be great. He used to be a pretty respectable guy about 15 years ago, but he's become a greedy, egotistical, money grubbing whore of a douchebag.h
04-29-2010, 03:23 AM #35
for all you morons thinking apple is getting sued, gizmodo are suing San Mateo County sheriff's office. They are the ones who raided the house and not apple.
04-29-2010, 06:52 AM #36
Go Gizmodo!!! Apple's gonna have to dig deep into their pockets to get out of this one. I'm tired of them walking all over others just because their a big company. They're worse than a fat lady at an anorexia convention (don't ask lol).
04-29-2010, 07:52 AM #37
Just read a similar stoey in NYPost stating that mr. Chen might sue lapd since tge raid was after he returned the phone to apple, and confiscating his personal comp was not nessesary acourding to his lawyer.
04-29-2010, 10:36 AM #38
04-29-2010, 11:18 AM #39
If Apple doesn't want this sort of thing happening, perhaps they shouldn't give the prototypes to their alcoholic employees! Or maybe they should do like the car companies and build a distorted "frankenstein" version of it, and NOT print their stupid logo all over it!!
Chen is NOT a thief, ever hear of "finders keepers, losers weapers"?? Besides, he gave the phone BACK, I wonder if Apple gave him the $5K back as a reward?? I THINK NOT! Imagine what may have happened if someone less responsible had gotten their hands on it!! Every one of you hypocrites bashing Chen about exposing the phone would have done the EXACT SAME THING... just to get your 15 minutes of fame.
Dear Mr Chen, make as much noise about this as possible, maybe eventually the media will make people SCARED to buy Apple products! Only then will Apple begin get what it deserves... to crash and burn!Praise the Devs! To each and every one of you who spend your time writing code and making apps for little or no profit... Its YOU that makes the iPhone great, NOT Apple!! From me to you, a million thanks!!
04-29-2010, 01:34 PM #40
It is absolutely amazing to me that there are so many Apple fanboys on this site that would actually side with Apple rather than Gizmodo. Screw Apple with all their rules and regulations! Bunch of control freaks!