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Old 02-20-2010, 08:06 PM
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GeoHot and DevTeam Discuss Exploits for New Baseband

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Well folks, we're almost there. In the very near future, baseband 05.12.01 could be unlockable for those of us unfortunate enough to be stuck in this position. Now it doesn't necessarily mean 3.1.3 will be worked on, but its good news none the less for those unfortunate users, and for the possibility of a group effort for the next unlock between GeoHot and the DevTeam. Discussed in an IRC channel, GeoHot and the DevTeam's MuscleNerd, share some thoughts on the exploits they have found, and by the looks of things, might actually team up to dish out an ultimate serving of Jailbreaking goodness.

GeoHot explains that there is an exploit that he had previously discovered and wanted to use with the release of blacksn0w, which has now found to still exist in 3.1.3. He goes on to discuss how he had originally wanted to implement this exploit in blacksn0w but opted to go with an open source route, which makes sense to keep things slightly on the downlow.

It sounds as though GeoHot and MuscleNerd (Dev Team) may possibly be working on the same exploit, and if that's the case, it would be incredibly logical for them to team up rather than releasing two different exploits, which in the end could just cause more greif when upgrading in the future.

Here is the excerpt posted by @visnet's twitter that is going around from the IRC Channel.

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<visnet_> What does geohot tweet mean?
<%geohot> its my bb exploit for safekeeping
<%Par4doX> geohot: did you turn that over to the dev team or are you doing something with it?
<%geohot> my days of turning things over are done
<%geohot> i hope its different from the one they have
<%geohot> but they prob already have it
<%geohot> its the one i orig wanted to release blacksn0w with
<%Par4doX> it’s still there in the new bb
<%geohot> yep, just checked
<%geohot> but then opted to use xemn since it was public
<Evan> Oo, it carries over from 05.11 to 05.12?
<%geohot> why wouldn’t it, apple doesn’t fix things proactivly
<@MuscleNerd> geohot we prob should figure out a way to know if we have same exploit double blind, otherwise we may release 2 different ones at same time
<%geohot> any suggestions?
<@MuscleNerd> not sure how to do that without making it easy to brute force tho
<%geohot> yea, i salted the hash
<@MuscleNerd> yeah
<@MuscleNerd> hmm maybe if we both hash the stack dump
<@Confucious> Can you two take this out of public sight?
<@MuscleNerd> the stack itself, not the header before it or the registers after it
<Her> muscle: any notice about the exploits are the same ?
<%geohot> we are working on it
<%geohot> cryptography, perfect for people who don’t trust each other
So take it as you will and share your thoughts. Again, we don't expect much for 3.1.3 (Rumor has it OS 3.2 will drop mid March), but this is good news for those of you in an utterly awful situation if your phone has become more like an really expensive iPod Touch.

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Old 02-20-2010, 08:16 PM
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:18 PM
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First one to reply!!! yay! LOL I don't do this much!

I can not wait, I'm stuck with 2 Iphone 3GS's with 45-49 serial number so can't wait to get the ball rolling!!

GeoHot is the MAN!!!
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:19 PM
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:25 PM
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First one to reply!!! yay! LOL I don't do this much!

I can not wait, I'm stuck with 2 Iphone 3GS's with 45-49 serial number so can't wait to get the ball rolling!!

GeoHot is the MAN!!!
your talking about an untethered jailbreak. this is actually about unlocking the iphone. Not really anything to do with untethering those later iPhones. Which geohot has said a million times he wont work on.

Unlocked = Using the Phone on Any Carrier.
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:27 PM
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First one to reply!!! yay! LOL I don't do this much!
Hahahaha so much fail in one post.

I say find out for sure when 3.2 drops before giving away any tactics to Apple.
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:39 PM
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nice....can't wait....
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What is the reason for Geohot not wanting to work on the untethering of later models? Excuse me because I'm sure it's been discussed before, but I've never heard why. Thanks.
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:44 PM
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Hopefully the exploit will still exist in 3.2 and even further into 4.0.
Geohot=The Man
DevTeam= eh...
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:46 PM
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Call me an arsehole, but honestly, anyone stupid enough to update to 3.1.3 with all the media put out there about NOT updating should be punished for their ignorance by being forced to use a RAZR as his/her phone for the months to come. (I understand it's different for people buying from eBay, but the "accidentally updated" people are just ridiculous.)

As for untethered, I'm sure we'll see it once the iPhone G4 rolls around.
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:47 PM
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Im glad I have got my 3GS Officially Unlocked now and don't have to worry about all this anymore
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Anyone know if the Geohot movie on Youtube was real ?


also i have to say We owe these guys the most up respect. The work they Do is priceless.
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:57 PM
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I don't understand why people donate to GeoHot, and then he thumbs his nose at working on the untethered jailbreak. Yeah I know he doesn't have to do it, but if he asks for people to give him money he might get more if he would consider doing the untethered fix, or release things that don't have problems from the beginning. I've donated to him before but he seems to just do stuff halfassed at the beginning, rake in the donations and then reluctantly fix the problems with his methods. Just my opinion.
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Old 02-20-2010, 09:10 PM
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Anyone know if the Geohot movie on Youtube was real ?
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Seriously? It was a joke...
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Old 02-20-2010, 09:29 PM
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This is great news but I would like to see a 3GS (new bootrom) jailbreak that's unteatgered, soon enough well have a new iPhone that might be worst

I don't wanna see apple win this "cat and mouse" game
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