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01-21-2010, 01:10 PM #1
App Removed At Competition's Request... Does That Seem Right To You?
A cautionary tale is being served up today by our friends from AppVault, who shared for all to see on their website that Apple pulled the plug on "AppVault" in the App Store because the competitors from "AppBox" issued a complaint and notified Apple.
Late last night, we found out that AppVault was removed from the App Store – because our main competitor, AppBox, complained that AppVault was too similar and infringed on their copyright.
First, a point on US copyright law. In the US you can’t copyright ideas – rather copyright protects things like code, images, etc. All of the code and artwork in AppVault was developed by us from scratch – so there is no real issue there.
We provided the marketplace with better value, and a better product, which was our genuine intent – and it seemed our customers agreed. Two days ago we passed AppBox in the rankings in the App Store, and both reviewers and bloggers consistently agreed that AppVault was a far better deal. This was great – we felt like we had succeeded in our goal to provide the best value in the App Store. However, the developer of AppBox submitted a complaint to Apple that our apps were too similar and demanded for AppVault to be pulled from the App Store. Although we pointed out that his demands were not grounded in copyright law and even worked with him to address some of his issues, about a week later Apple pulled us from the store without even talking to us first or providing a reason.
Although I appreciate Apple wanting to stay out of a dispute between two rivals, the policy to pull an app from the store on complaint by a rival isn’t impartial – it is taking sides. It allows an app developer to dictate the marketplace, forcing a poorer quality product on Apple’s customers and taking away a customer’s right to choose.
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01-21-2010, 01:42 PM #2
Man, that is BS. That's not right at all. What about all the Twitter Apps? They don't complain about others developing apps doing the same thing.
01-21-2010, 01:52 PM #3
Damn! This should clear up all those fart and flashlight apps then!!!!
01-21-2010, 02:54 PM #4
I also agree... not right at all. With almost any search these days, you're results will be numerous apps with similar features.21.5" iMac 3.06 GHz Intel Core i3 l 15" MacBook Pro 2.2 GHz Intel Core i7 l 17" PowerBook 1.67 GHz
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01-21-2010, 02:57 PM #5
1 app being deleted because another 1 was to similar? I remember an article in the summer that said there were 106 tic tac toe apps and that number has probably grown
01-21-2010, 02:58 PM #6
That is completely jacked...as a developer I one would never stoop to that level and blatantly hate on another app when they clearly have a better product, and the fact that apple actually approved this request is more than unsettling.
01-21-2010, 02:59 PM #7
I bet the porn apps won't have this problem. I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.
01-21-2010, 03:10 PM #8
It happened almost as soon as the App Store opened with iBeer. Remember?
Anyway, that's like saying we can only have one crossword or Sudoku app. Considering that nearly every app I have ever used has had serious user interface and usability flaws, that would be the death-knell for the App Store. As it stands, I usually have to try multiple ones and settle on the one with the least flaws or made by a more responsive publisher who will update to address complaints or improving competition. Competition = GOOD.
01-21-2010, 03:15 PM #9
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I wasn't there but what probably happened is Apple received a DMCA Takedown notice. They then complied to keep themselves from being held liable. Anyone can file a takedown notice. It takes almost nothing. AppVault now has a file a Put Back notice and then apple returns their app to the store and lets appvault and appbox slug it out in court if they choose to do so. Either way apple remains immune to any prosecution that way.
01-21-2010, 03:22 PM #10
There is no shortage of drama surrounding Apple and its' AppStore.
AppBox are fools and Apple should have addressed the issue in a far better manner than just removing it. Like everyone is saying, there are tons of apps in the AppStore that are similar. This is no different and should be allowed. We the customers have the right to choose!
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01-21-2010, 03:32 PM #11
just put it in the Cydia store!
01-21-2010, 03:50 PM #12
Ok so when I launch my App, I'm going to complain to Apple that the other Apps on the App store are copying me by being an App for the iPhone.
When does this madness stop?
01-21-2010, 03:55 PM #13
Don't buy the AppBox and tell all your firends not to buy it. When the well dries up under protest, they will buckle.
01-21-2010, 04:06 PM #14
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01-21-2010, 04:51 PM #16
What a shame. It's not like there's 128397123712 identical twitter apps or anything.
01-21-2010, 04:55 PM #17
i know rite
and fart apps and flashlite
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01-21-2010, 06:09 PM #18
Business Studies lesson
Competition is healthy in the market place remove it, and we end up with lower quality products because "they" (the companies) don't have to put in the effort to win customers. which causes people to stop buying the product/s
It's bad business, Apple needs to reconsider it's decision!!!Competition
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01-21-2010, 06:27 PM #19
yet another reason why Im starting to dislike Apple. if the next gen iphone is not much better than the 3GS Im seriously thinking of getting the Nexus One by Google.
01-21-2010, 06:31 PM #20
Apple is just protecting there selfs. I'm sure it will be back up soon. They ain't that bold Just smart.