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12-19-2009, 12:20 AM #41
12-19-2009, 01:23 AM #42
Am I the only one who thinks its a bonehead move to spend nearly 30 billion dollars buying a smaller network when that money could have gone toward building out their current 3G and upcoming 4G networks. Clearly the customers will come when the service and phone selection is good. Buying a competing network for their customers is nonsense. At most they keep them for two years before their contracts are up. Look at what happened with Sprint buying Nextel for their customers. As soon as the contract is up they jump ship and yet 10s of billions of dollars that could have, and should have, gone toward infrastructure is lost. I know you'll say but they've spent 19 billion dollars so far. That's over three years. It could have been 19 billion EACH YEAR.
12-19-2009, 02:00 AM #43
ok I dont get it. for all of you ATT fanboys who say verizon hasn't had a surge of data, please tell me what other smart phones they have? Blackberry, winmo, android. iPhone isn't the only phone that consumes DATA.
While ATT does sell a **** load of iphones, Verizon continues to probably lead the Blackberry turf with all their promos, and they have been selling new droid phones like hotcakes.
Oh yea, I don't even have Verizon. I left ATT and my iPhone to go with Sprint and the HTC Hero. Less dropped calls and more consistant 3G network. I will say that the iPhone was the best phone i've ever used, it sucks to be on ATT. I live in a metro area in southern california and the ATT 3g service is a joke. 3G is no good if you can't even stay in 3G while driving around metro areas.
12-19-2009, 02:05 AM #44
a bunch of you sound like whiny b*tches honestly. if you're happy with AT&T why do you even care if Verizon gets the iPhone or not? it's not gonna affect you in the least bit.
really the only people that should care are the ones that want to dump AT&T (like me) and would like a different carrier, and existing verizon customers that want an iPhone but don't wanna leave their carrier. since when did cellphone providers start acquiring fanboys? this sh*t is ridiculous.
the bottom line is that verizon has 89 million customers, and that's a lot of potential new iPhone owners. apple is in the business to sell their product.
12-19-2009, 03:44 AM #45
Anyways Verizon may have had a surge in data, but nothing comparable to what ATT has been experiencing since the first iPhone was released. Just look at the web browsing statistics which don't even take into account other handsets with different OS's that are still being used on ATTs network. Plus people download full MP3s, movies, and TV Shows onto their iPhones via iTunes and the app store. Not to mention torrents and other stuff people do with Jailbroken phones. What other devices do that on other carriers?
AppleInsider | Apple's iPhone OS takes 40 percent of Web market share - study
Plus it's going to be hilarious when everyone is ******** about their $350 early termination fees that Verizon recently implemented. After 23 months of the contract, that's still $125 pro-rated to cancel.
12-19-2009, 03:50 AM #46
12-19-2009, 04:31 AM #47
I'm so glad I live in the UK where networks all use the same standards.
No network is perfect and you get different reception in different areas.
For me I chose T-Mobile as there network is fastest (for me) and their price plans and service are great, other people chose different networks. It's their choice.
From a purely selfish point of view I hope verizon don't get the iPhone and to answer the person who asked why anyone should care it's because in order to use verizon Apple will have to use a dual mode chip which are usually adequate for both but not the best at either..
It will be interesting to see how bad verizon get if they do get the iPhone.
We have it lucky here in the UK as it is a much smaller area so the big four have coverage over most of the country. Not so easy in the USA.
Good luckHe who asks a question looks foolish for 5 minutes. He who doesn't ask a question remains foolish forever.
12-19-2009, 05:22 AM #48
I once prayed to God for an iPhone, but quickly found out He didn't work that way...so I stole an iPhone and prayed for His forgiveness.
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12-19-2009, 08:02 AM #49
Speaking of data/voice integration. How is Verizon going to handle that? As it is now, people may not see it but data/voice on the iPhone is pretty seamless and is used more often then one would assume. With the iPhone 4G coming with video conferencing, the function will require both data and voice to work. Does Verizon plan on upgrading its capabilities to allow both data and voice integration? If not, then I don't see the iPhone going to Verizon.
12-19-2009, 08:08 AM #50
i find it hard to believe after all the bashing commercials that they would just hold hands and make up. Apple just bashed them i dont think they would turn around and be like oh now buy from Verizon now.....
12-19-2009, 11:43 AM #51
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12-19-2009, 07:51 PM #52
Can't Wait this to happen. i always have a drop calls no coverage in my area.Your world undeliveredd from AT&T.
12-20-2009, 01:19 PM #53
Verizon touts a large 3G network that has slow data speeds. I have used them and AT&T and AT&T's 3G blows Verizon away. Who cares if Verizon has a larger 3G footprint when I have the same coverage with Edge?
Verizon could not handle the iPhones being dropped on their network right now, but they have time to play catch up in case they do get it.
12-20-2009, 02:34 PM #54
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12-20-2009, 04:08 PM #55
All the commercial says is that their network is capable of doing voice and data simultaneously. Is it false advertising because they don't mention it's only under 3G service? I don't think so because Verizon's network isn't capable of doing it at all.
Let's compare apples to apples. The ads from both providers focus on the 3G portions of their networks.
And the fact is that the majority of ATT users do in fact have 3G service most of the time, so I think you're splitting hairs here.
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12-20-2009, 10:31 PM #56
For all of you with AT&T and have BlackSn0w installed, you WILL get dropped calls because of BlackSn0w!!!!!
Don't blame those on AT&T. It a bug in BlackSn0w that doesn't handle Voice and Data at the same time correctly, and causes the phone to loose signal for a second or longer, and drops the call!!! (IE mail downloads something from the server, can drop the call)
I have seen this on many 3G and 3Gs's.
Uninstall BlackSn0w, and you will notice much less dropped calls!!! (Can still use BlackRa1n, the jailbreak is fine, only the unlock is flawed) If you are using it on AT&T, you won't need it anyway.... Unless the iphone isn't from AT&T.
12-21-2009, 02:24 PM #57
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12-22-2009, 12:27 AM #58
12-22-2009, 12:30 AM #59
Only two countries use contracts?
I didn't know that the UK was now part of the USA - or are we part of North Korea?
Most other countries in Europe also have contracts and subsidised phones. In the UK you have a choice but the vast majority of phones are sold on contract.He who asks a question looks foolish for 5 minutes. He who doesn't ask a question remains foolish forever.
12-22-2009, 05:13 PM #60
I hate it when the "uninformed" speak to the "uninformed" but think they are informed.
(I am kidding)