[chris4851]

Originally Posted by DirtyDan

You say Fanboy, I say prove me wrong. You say "Oh there are way better phones and phones with better features" but you don't provide examples or back it up. Liking something because it's truly better doesn't make someone a fan boy, liking something even when it sucks does.

To name a few...
Background tasking?
User customization?
Email that actually works?
PHYSICAL KEYBOARD?
Tethering?
Yes I know most of these can be handled by Jailbreaking the phone, which I also have done. But personally a phone should not be locked down like Apple does to the iPhone. That is the number one reason why the iPhone will NEVER be better than a Blackberry. Apples control over the iPhone is a downfall to the phone.

Originally Posted by DirtyDan

There are so many things I could do on my iPhone that your blackberry couldn't come close to do doing

100% fanboy comment

Originally Posted by DirtyDan

in addition to your dingleberry being ugly and having buttons that are way too small for the hands of anything bigger than a squirrel.

Grow up, How old are you? You own an iPhone, have you not typed on it? You say a Blackberry has small keys... Portrait mode the keys are smaller than most Blackberry's and Landscape allows you to see one line of text while typing.

Originally Posted by DirtyDan

Maybe you need to come to the realization that there STILL IS NOT A PHONE with more capabilities than the iPhone, and there won't be after the "Droid Does" come out.

Like I said before I have an iPhone, I also have a Blackberry and have owned several Windows Mobile phones. Yes the iPhone is a great phone and so are Blackberry's, there are several things the iPhone can do that others cannot. They each excel in certain things. The iPhone is far from the perfect phone and so are Blackberry's. There will NEVER be a phone that will be perfect for everyone. There will ALWAYS be flaws in every phone.

[Rota]

Originally Posted by GIRLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Motorola Droid hands on! : Boy Genius Report

What do you think will be the change here? Gold D-Pad button not being finalized killing the buzz for you?

It's going to run Android with a Cortex A8 processor, 256MB of ram, have a camera with flash.. what more is there to know exactly again?

Wait a minute, they're putting all this money into attack ads to advertise a Motorola phone?! I totally support what Verizon is doing, but what the hell, Motorola?! Those guys have gone down the shitter so hard in the last few years, and they never were able to make a decent phone OS. I used to work with a ton of people who were laid off from Motorola and every one of them agrees, their QA is absolutely terrible, and they couldn't code themselves out of a paper bag. Remember the clunky, poor quality, slow RAZR's that were all the craze? I went through five of those due to hardware defects. This will be another big flop like the Blackberry Storm all over again.

[n00neimp0rtant]

2 things.

1. If you don't have or like the iPhone, only God knows why you're registered for this site. Just throwing that out there. This is in no way an attack, more of a rhetorical statement.
2. Why don't we stay on topic? Even if you're an iPhone fanboy, your life won't change in the slightest just because you convinced someone to get an iPhone. Get a life, and move on. People are permitted to have opinions.

[GIRLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL]

Originally Posted by Rota

Wait a minute, they're putting all this money into attack ads to advertise a Motorola phone?! I totally support what Verizon is doing, but what the hell, Motorola?! Those guys have gone down the shitter so hard in the last few years, and they never were able to make a decent phone OS. I used to work with a ton of people who were laid off from Motorola and every one of them agrees, their QA is absolutely terrible, and they couldn't code themselves out of a paper bag. Remember the clunky, poor quality, slow RAZR's that were all the craze? I went through five of those due to hardware defects. This will be another big flop like the Blackberry Storm all over again.

Obviously you have not a clue. It's a Motorola that Google hand their hand in developing with the same hardware as the iPhone 3G S. Get over it people.

Originally Posted by chris4851

To name a few...
Background tasking?
User customization?
Email that actually works?
PHYSICAL KEYBOARD?
Tethering?
Yes I know most of these can be handled by Jailbreaking the phone, which I also have done. But personally a phone should not be locked down like Apple does to the iPhone. That is the number one reason why the iPhone will NEVER be better than a Blackberry. Apples control over the iPhone is a downfall to the phone.

Jailbreaking? Apple is trying to put a stop to that so that's a big if you get one you can Jailbreak.

[metaserph]

Reality check for Android OS:

"GigaOm's Om Malik stirred the pot when he used data from AdMob to conclude there are $200 million worth of applications sold in Apple's iPhone App Store every month.

That would make it a $2.4 billion-per-year business, the largest mobile app market no one is talking about! Meanwhile, Malik said the rival Google Android Market store brings in about $5 million a month, or $60 million in a year. Respectable numbers for a niche market, but not for a massive market opportunity in smartphones.

Google Android application developer Matt Hall from Larva Labs threw his own company's data into the mix yesterday, backing up Malik and AdMob and adding in a blog post: "As sad as that comparison may be, from our experience the total is probably much lower."

Anyways, is Verizon attacking the iPhone, at the same time they are trying to negotiate a deal to offer the iPhone? Sure. So. Who cares, it's guerrilla marketing and everyone does it. However they slice the pie, the iPhone market was mature from day one and it doesn't seem to be letting up anytime soon. Being informed requires more than reading geeky blogs.

[GIRLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL]

Didn't you say you we're done posting in this thread? If you read half of the threads made here every day the iPhone market is far from being 100% informed or mature.


So far Android has barely gotten off the ground, lower sales RIGHT NOW is totally 100% expected. Maybe it isn't for you because you're the uninformed one.

[n00neimp0rtant]

Originally Posted by metaserph

That would make it a $2.4 billion-per-year business, the largest mobile app market no one is talking about! Meanwhile, Malik said the rival Google Android Market store brings in about $5 million a month, or $60 million in a year. Respectable numbers for a niche market, but not for a massive market opportunity in smartphones.

Keep in mind that Android is currently only available on T-Mobile, and Verizon and AT&T have larger user bases. I'm certain once the Droid hits Verizon there will be an explosion of applications available for Android. In fact, I'm willing to believe that once Android hits AT&T, too, that eventually the Android Market will be bigger than the App Store (as long as Apple stick with AT&T as an exclusive carrier).

[metaserph]

First off, Girlll, I wasn't refering to you. Second, whoopdidoo. The thread started with is Verizon attacking the iPhone and degraded into " I'm at an iPhone forum but I really wish I had a Droid", which suits me fine. All I am stating is what analysts ARE saying, professionals who make a living at this, not bloggers paid to blah blah blah.
To expand, the point IS Android 2.0 is not a final os yet, much less a finished product. ALL "they" have comes from BGR blog. So based on a few screenshots and comments, Droid brings a lot of promise YET undelivered. Fact.

"Android 2.0 operating system is highly anticipated and we grab a look at Android OS today courtesy of the guys over at the BGR who have apparently managed to get hold of numerous screenshots of the new Android OS names Éclair.

Android 2.0 OS hasn’t even been announced or released yet but they sure do have a lot of images and information like native Exchange support and native Facebook support, completely updated Maps app, and unified email inbox, brand new user interface, browser improvements and much more. They do say though that it is not a final version of Android 2.0 and thus things can change before Android 2.0 OS actually hits;"

Since i started in computer programming in the 70's, I'm pretty sure that, if I chose to and you agreed to, I could expose who's really informed about technology and who's playing cool. Anyways, meh. Sorry I posted.

[GIRLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL]

Ugh. Really, ugh. What do you think will change in one MONTH to the OS? Really, think about it. You don't have to be a computer programmer to have some common sense. They're not going to redesign the handset or software. They're looking for bugs and tweaking minor things now. It's in it's final stages. If you think you can't pass judgment on it now, or how finalized it is go right on ahead and do so. But when it comes out looking and operating exactly the same as it is in these pre release reviews save for maybe a few minor changes well you'll know you're wrong. This is not a half year away from release, most of what we're seeing is what it WILL be.

[metaserph]

Girl, we're going round and round differing in minor points. I am not bashing Droid, Android or anything else. You say think about it. So let's think about it.
The iPhone runs a modified version of a mature desktop os that was proven, even though it had to continually be updated due to, exactly, bugs. Which is why we have 4 iterations of iPhones and more to come. Android is a "new" object oriented OS still new and undeveloped which will most likely have bugs that will get addressed over time, it will not be a finished product OOB. Product design and development is a process, not all based on "common sense". It is called "common" for a reason. And what can change in a month? Plenty. This development cycle is not unique to the Droid, it is a phase ALL technology goes through.
All I am saying is, watch Droid owners start their ******** for bug fixes and features they wanted and didn't get, just like us iPhone users have. I'll be the first to accept the Droid as the ultimate iPhone basher, WHEN AND IF IT COMES TO PASS. Until then :marimba:

[Nimbulan]

"Hi, I'm a Mac. And I'm a PC."

Bawww.

[metaserph]

Regarding the "iPhone Killer":

"The Droid -- $299.99 before a $100 mail-in rebate for new and renewing customers who sign up for voice and data bundles of $69.98 or more, text messaging not included --also shares certain issues with other Android devices. You have to upload your existing calendars and contacts lists to Google's Web-based services, which then synchronize with the phone over the air. (Other companies are working on software to allow direct syncing of those records, as well as iTunes music libraries, but they're not all there yet.) And its multitasking abilities can outstrip its hardware, leading to hiccups in music playback as other things happen in the background.
...
The Droid's flash-equipped camera, however, doesn't yield the quality that its 5-megapixel resolution might suggest. Photos appeared grainy, videos looked blurry and it exhibited the same shutter lag as most other cameraphones.
...
Less impressive: Verizon's visual-voicemail software, which allows you to play or delete messages in any order but this costs an extra $2.99 a month.

The Droid's lack of multi-touch gesture input -- a standard feature on the iPhone, Palm's Pre and some other Android phones --and its inability to open a few standard e-mail attachments constitute other disappointments. "

Oh well.