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Thread: AT&T to Throttle iPhone Users?
10-09-2009, 09:26 PM #41
Every phone bill I have shows 10-20GB of use, with my highest being last month at 26GB... But that was somewhat explained as I was using it as my sole mobile internet connection for 6 days. Its still burning hot from that trip, lol.
I understand this is not normal use. But I dont see how I could not use over 5GB, even if the device was not jail broken.
Never had ATT say a word to me, but im on a bill with 5 other iPhones that use next to NO data, so maybe they let it slide? I dont care regardless. I use the device as I see fit. The fact that no wireless providers have a true 'UNLIMITED' plan is insane. Most Unlimited plans are silently limited to 5GB, so im glad ATT isnt doing this currently... But Ive always felt they would implement a similar policy. Im just waiting for a multi thousand dollar bill to show up...
I find it easy to use massive data. I live in a very good 3G zone, I can normally download at 200KB/s, which is extremely good for a mobile device. You dont want to see what i use a month on my standard ISP.
Last edited by ZOMGVTEK; 10-09-2009 at 09:29 PM.
10-09-2009, 09:39 PM #42
I pay $30 a month for unlimited home internet. It is also $30 a month for unlimited data usage for the iPhone with AT&T. I think if you pay that much a month, you can use however much data you want because you're practically paying as much as you would for unlimited internet usage anyway. Throttling their customers is a bad idea, I just might switch carriers if that were to happen. If T-mobile didn't have such terrible coverage, I would consider them as an alternative.Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons.
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10-09-2009, 09:58 PM #43
And Youve actaully illustrated my point. Sure you could go to another carrier, but youd lose the device. So if you want to keep the device - stay on the network, EVEN if it means you dont necessarily agree with their policies, and more importantly, abide by them for the greater good of your fellow users.
As for the rest of my "article", what lies would you be speaking of?
Last edited by cpkirkley; 10-09-2009 at 10:10 PM. Reason: Addendum.
10-09-2009, 10:00 PM #44
Then the data should be $30 like it is for all new smartphones/blackberries unless it includes tethering or something.
Well, that's the main reason to whine about AT&T, people like options and if you don't want to suffer with EDGE @ T-Mobile and unlocking you don't have any. People like options.
10-09-2009, 10:39 PM #45
Personally though, im actually impressed with performance, consider how many million of us network slaying data whores are using iphones nowadays. Think about it, you dont think T-Mo or sprint would handle this bandwitdh situation any better would you? Verizon is the only us carrier that could properly deal with the type of volume generated... but an iphone plan from them? 50 at the CHEAPEST.
Last edited by cpkirkley; 10-09-2009 at 10:46 PM.
10-09-2009, 10:51 PM #46
Man this would be the cherry on the cake...
10-09-2009, 10:54 PM #47
I know Sprint would be able to handle it better, their 3G is more expansive. T-Mobile has over a million Android users alone and counting(not close to iPhone users but still, they wouldn't acquire that many iPhone subscribers anyway).. it all depends on the network. T-Mobile uses two higher bands for 3G traffic as well so it can handle a load of data better although penetration is worse, but their 3G towers just need a software update for 21mbps HSPA.
Regardless, spreading the iPhone out over everyone's network is best for the consumer.
10-09-2009, 11:08 PM #48
cpkirk, I have nowhere near enough storage on my phone to store any of my music, so I stream it all off my home network. All of my media is FLAC converted to ALAC, and 44.1 or higher. It takes almost near the full connection speed of the iPhone to stream that content.
And recently ive been downloading HD Podcasts that are 700+MB each at night so theyre done in the morning. Phones fully charged, podcasts stored, charger on fire.
Then theres tethering... I dont do it that often, but when I do... I NEED it, and use it heavily. Plus any ORB Live TV streaming, etc... On a normal month id use over 5GB easily using apps available on the app store, and a stock phone.
10-09-2009, 11:20 PM #49
I was looking at it from a one carrier instead of the other POV, totally agreed on the split bandwidth. But that would assume that the powers that be actually cared about stuff like that, and we know how that goes...
I was actually think about the dualband as a solution for AT&T. If they had something like that, lets say one band for cellular phone data usage, and another for say, tethering and aircard, that couldve relieved alot of the current issues. Not sure how feasible that is given their current setup, but the though was there, at least. Anybody have like, a billion dollars I could borrow to get the ball rolling?
@ZOMG - I actually have a setup similar to yours, only I went a step further to set stuff up for mobile use. I have one 4 GB Terastation with my BR rips, HDTV Content, and my music albums, for use on the laptops/stereo systems while im in the house. Then I have my old NAS, 2TB linkstation Duo, with all of that stuff compressed to a lower quality for streaming from home when im out. Its the smaller NAS that my Itunes/Orb Server is synced to. I use XBMC and Plex to access the larger drive. Now I can see where the bandwidth is coming into play. Most of the stuff im streaming is at the highest 192kbps for audio, maybe 700 or so for video. When i travel, I bring my netbook with me, and playing HD content on netbooks is hopeless. Now I can watch everything on the go, decreased quality mind you - but NO skipping.
Last edited by cpkirkley; 10-09-2009 at 11:32 PM.
10-10-2009, 12:02 AM #50
10-10-2009, 06:28 AM #51
So AT&T are learning what the rest of the world did a few years ago?
In the UK we have different price plans depending on what you want and have done.
That way I don't pay for people that want to download vast amounts of data.
My plan is limited to 3Gb which is fine for me - but that's why it only costs £12.50/month (I pay a lot less than that, but that's what a new user would pay). They do cheaper plans with a 1Gb limit and more expensive plans with a 5Gb limit.
No wonder you guys pay so much - but is surprises me that you are using your phones to download so much - I barely get 1-2 Mb speeds on my phone, it must be painfully slow.
I'm having my home BB upgraded on Monday because I think it's to slow at only 20Mb...He who asks a question looks foolish for 5 minutes. He who doesn't ask a question remains foolish forever.
10-10-2009, 07:10 AM #52
LOL, the consumer doesn't matter to Apple? I wonder how they get along then with such consumer based sales.. AT&T is like the spinach you don't want to eat but you have to if you want to get the dessert (iPhone).
10-10-2009, 09:08 AM #53
All I really ask for is they leave it alone.
Yes, the top 1% of iPhone users are probably using a stupid percentage of the bandwidth... But a good portion of those people are the hardcore users that make the device work the way it should for everyone else. That, combined with the lower tier of users who are older, dont use the internets to begin with, and just say how 'cool' the iPhone is or something to that effect. I know at least my dad uses a few hundred MB a month.... So im just covering his bandwidth....
But when you look at it, $30 a month is INSANELY cheap for unlimited 3G. Its double that for a 5GB cap, and they dont even have a unlimited plan.
10-10-2009, 09:49 AM #54
I just KNOW all you smart people are going to find a way to give me back my tethering. Please do it quickly. It is a real help for my husband to be driving while I am working.
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10-10-2009, 01:34 PM #56
T-Mobile Germany hat limit his dataplans since 2 Years. It depends on the plan. the cheapest: after 400 MB Fullspeed you must use GPRS-"Speed" LOL.
So this is normal guys.
10-10-2009, 03:30 PM #57
"de la Vega said AT&T needed to "manage the network to make sure that the few cannot crowd out the many"
If there are few people using "unlimited" data and on the other side enough that ARE for them to notice ...if you throttle aren't you then crowding out the many for the sake of the few?
10-10-2009, 03:50 PM #58
I would be surpsied if more than 2 of all the people complaining about AT&T in this thread fall in this "really high usage damn son" category.
This will not affect anyone and in the big picture it is pretty fair. Why should I have data issues because someone in the same
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10-10-2009, 06:53 PM #59
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10-11-2009, 07:34 PM #60
F^This is getting a lil' ridiculous...