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06-28-2009, 03:40 PM #141
Personaly, I can't wait for the JB to come out. Probably like most people on this site:P
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06-28-2009, 03:41 PM #142
They are holding off of releasing it now, because they KNOW a firmware update is coming, and thus if it's released now, it's almost a certainty that it will be patched before enough people have a chance to buy an iphone and grab their signature files from purplera1n.com. Once apple releases 3.01 it's less likely that they'll release an update for a while.
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I agree with that. Apple could patch this jailbreak with 3.0.1 and they could patch the 3.0.1 jailbreak with 3.0.2 if they wanted. IMO, not releasing the jailbreak now is just postponing the inevitable. The jailbreak is going to be released and Apple is going to patch it, whether its 3.0.1 or 3.1.2.
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06-28-2009, 03:47 PM #146
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06-28-2009, 03:47 PM #147
Not to long ago there was a chance this thing wouldn't be able to be jailbroken period, or at least not for months till someone found a new method...i'm glad to know it's possible, and that it's going to happen. I can wait, I'm just stoked my extra ram+CPU is going to get to house more mobile substrates with less lag now
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06-28-2009, 03:50 PM #148
I was in agreement with wanting the jailbreak NOW until reading your post. The jailbreak will happen regardless of when it is released. But how much sense does it make to release the jailbreak before the bug fixes on 3.0?? You dont risk being stuck on the first version of a new firmware just because you are impatient and want the jailbreak and "cant wait a few weeks".
I have a brand new 32gb 3GS sitting in front of me still in the box that I cant use because I have Tmobile, and still I will patiently wait out the jailbreak. There are so many people who selfishly scream, "JAILBREAK JAILBREAK", without actually considering the down sides to pushing something out prematurely.
My ONLY concern is ultrasn0w working on the 3GS...but I know that no matter what firmware apple pushes out there will always be a way to preserve the baseband.
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06-28-2009, 03:50 PM #149
Isn't it going to be a few weeks anyway from a new update until it comes as standard on new phones?
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06-28-2009, 03:56 PM #150
You guys are dumb. Apple doesn't know HOW they did it, so they hold onto it so that they see if Apple will be able to block it themselves in 3.0.1
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Yeah but they dont want to release the jailbreak now cuz 3.0.1 will break it. Well if your using that logic then why release the jailbreak after 3.0.1 if 3.0.2 will break it too? Sooner or later the jailbreak will be broken, why not enjoy it now? Also, not upgrading to 3.0.1 which just has "bug fixes" isnt a huge loss. Id rather stay on 3.0 with jailbreak than 3.0.1 with no jailbreak. Im not impatient (I dont even have my 3GS yet lol) Im just saying I dont agree with the logic but then again Im not part of the dev team
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I believe the Dev Team work in the best interests of the whole community.
There is no doubt that GeoHotz is exceedingly capable but he is, IMHO, a lose canon. He will release things to prove he is the best without regard for other people. If he releases a jailbreak now many people will not be able to use it the Dev team think ahead, he is young and will learn. As it is he knows he is the best and wants everyone else to know it too, most young people who are very good do.
Being young, he won't listen to anyone else because he knows best - as does everyone of his age. It's a shame, he is undoubtedly a genius and, because he is, he won't listen to others. If he worked with the Dev Team and listened to them (they are all exceedingly clever) instead of trying to prove himself better than them we would all be better off.
Having said that, we have a lot to thank him for. I doubt if he will read this, much less care for my views but I believe the Dev Team know better than him, even if he is possibly the best.
The Dev Team know how much I appreciate their work but that does not mean I don't appreciate Geo, the Chronic Dev and our own SB as well.
It's a pity they can't all work together, but I guess that's life.
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06-28-2009, 04:01 PM #154iPhone? More like MyPhone
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I don't see the point of upgrading to 3.0.1 unless they give us something WORTH it like quickreply a la bitesms... What could they possibly do to make us want to upgrade? Are they gonna come out and admit "We fixed the exploit that allows us from preventing you unlocking your phones" C'mon Apple, come correct for once
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06-28-2009, 04:04 PM #155
"chronicdevteamrealizes he 1. can't reverse x86 for **** and 2. doesn't know how to hook to private functions by address, because the one IDA shows == fail"
what does that mean?
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06-28-2009, 04:13 PM #157
Have you not realized yet that the dev team jailbreaks EVERY firmware released???? STFU already. There will be jailbreaks FOREVER! The game will never end. Enough with saying that 3.0.1 etc. wont be able to be jailbroken. If you know so much why dont you just figure out a way to jailbreak 3.0 3GS yourself then? Oh yeah, you dont even own a 3GS yet......
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06-28-2009, 04:15 PM #158iPhone? More like MyPhone
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who cares if apple releases an update or patch. just dont update
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GeoHot is my role model!!!! He's same age as me I think.
People don't realize is that knowing Apple they'll do it so that your favourite apps won't work on 3.0 so you'll have to upgrade to 3.0.1
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