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Old 05-27-2009, 03:33 AM
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I always said to go with a composite back . I mean their making a ton of money on everything else (app store , itunes ), why not splurge a little and give the consumers something that will hold up to the every day wear and tear . Well the answer to that is because they dont have to !
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If it's like the Motorola phones it will be nice.
You really think so? yes the rubber was good on the black or blue Motorola V3x but I hated how it would peal off through time.

But guess things can't stay mint forever.
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Old 05-27-2009, 07:48 AM
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The reason there is a plastic back on the 3G is nothing to do with saving money and everything to do with letting the signal get through to the 3G antennae.
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Old 05-27-2009, 07:56 AM
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So.... I am guessing that the slow 3G is just like the current 3G version? And it will always be as slow as it is now? Even after any future software upgrades?

I guess I don't have to eat the whole "apple", to know that its bad...... I think I have my last iPhone for sure.
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:02 AM
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The current one is HSDPA up to 3.6Mbs and is certainly not slow. What speeds do you get on speedtest?

The 3G one will be a LOT slower as its limited to 384kbs
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Old 05-27-2009, 09:15 AM
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I like the metal and plastic backings. Made it easy to set it on the table an spin it when I was bored. I feel bad for all you guys who can't enjoy the 3g coverage. I guess I lucked out. I live in Annapolis, MD. If a capital city dint have 3g I'd be writing to my congressman. Haha.
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apparently you missed all the apple/china drama over the iphone...

If my iPhone only supports 3g, thats just that many more components I don't have to have in the phone. cheaper overall production costs, cheaper for me. That is assuming they aren't going to raise the price.
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:13 PM
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so does this mean we'll have to worry about eBay re-sellers trying to make us believe they are selling us the new "fast iPhone" when in reality they are giving us the China version? How would they differentiate and how would a noob user be able to tell? I was already bothered enough by the Ciphone!
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Old 05-28-2009, 01:17 AM
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apparently you missed all the apple/china drama over the iphone...

If my iPhone only supports 3g, thats just that many more components I don't have to have in the phone. cheaper overall production costs, cheaper for me. That is assuming they aren't going to raise the price.
Apple/China drama?

What extra components? I am not certain but I believe it is just an enhanced antennae that is needed to receive HSDPA which should not cost much, if any, more than a 3G antennae. I would have thought the costs of producing two different devices would exceed any savings. Do you know differnt?

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so does this mean we'll have to worry about eBay re-sellers trying to make us believe they are selling us the new "fast iPhone" when in reality they are giving us the China version? How would they differentiate and how would a noob user be able to tell? I was already bothered enough by the Ciphone!
The Chinese version runs on their own unique technology and will work nowhere else in the world.

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Old 05-28-2009, 08:43 AM
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you know what would be nicer then having a fast and faster model?

the ability to drive from point a to point b while I am listening to internet radio, and not jumping between Edge and 3G...

What would be even nicer would be when i pull out my 3G iphone, and go to do something like watch a YouTube Video or try to show someone something while I wait for my food, and not have to wait for the phone to connect to the 3G network cause it's stuck on the Edge Network.

What would be even nicer still, would be not having my phone jump back and forth between the Edge Network and 3G network while I am taking a break in my own bathroom, while the rest of my house easily and without fail get's 3G.

I think what I am trying to say is that they can "boost" their iPhone speeds all they want. Buy who really cares if I have an modem that can theoretically do 10 meg download speeds when i only have a service that can only do 2?
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Apple/China drama?
iPhone inches closer to China ? The Register

that is some of it, and that is march 5 2009, so they are just no getting the iphone.

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What extra components? I am not certain but I believe it is just an enhanced antennae that is needed to receive HSDPA which should not cost much, if any, more than a 3G antennae. I would have thought the costs of producing two different devices would exceed any savings. Do you know different?
ifixitanno.jpg (image)

This is my reference, you can see the 2 chips, one for edge and one for 3g. IF the phone is 3G+ only, why have the edge chip?

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Old 05-29-2009, 01:37 AM
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Apple have been negotiating with different Chinese carriers and that article was talking about Unicom who, I believe, use UMTS but they finally settled on one that uses TS-CDMA so will have to produce a separate version for China only (no one else uses TS-CDMA)- that's old news and not a drama.

All phones will need a chip for 'GSM/edge' as this is the standard GSM chip which 3G falls back to when it can't get a 3G signal.

The second chip will have to be either 3G only OR 3G/HSDPA and this is the problem - they will have to use 2 different chipsets which, I believe will be more of a problem than it solves. Unless the 3G only chips are a lot cheaper than the HSDPA chips I can't see that it will be worth it.
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Old 06-01-2009, 07:23 AM
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16GB/32GB AT&T has stopped selling 8GB 3G model's already
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Old 06-03-2009, 04:49 AM
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The current 3G model probably doesn't support some of the new features, such as video recording.
never heard of cycorder?
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