Pwnage - Custom Modded Firmware through iTunes

**Drakenza** · 03-08-2008, 11:10 AM

This is very interesting, but why would they release it now?

Firmware 1.2 beta will be reaching the payers sometime soon, which means there may be a leak. The fact is, however, that the beta can be tweaked last minute by Apple to get around this hack (it seems that the main issue for Apple is related to mere security checks). It's likely that 1.2b will patch this, which means it won't work on 1.2 final.

The fact that the Dev team released so much information about the exploit shows that they have something bigger planned for 1.2 and they don't mind letting this exploit be blown away... Or maybe they genuinely believe that Apple can't fix this one...

Whatever, I'm excited

**tntmorgan** · 03-08-2008, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by llol_slim

please excuse my lack of knowledge, but I have just been reading "what is Pwnage?" and it says
""Pwnage is based on an exploit found in the lower levels of the iPhone/iTouch bootloader.""
does that mean that we are (once released) untouchable by apple?
What I mean is, the fact that it is in the bootloader and not hacking the firmware after its installed mean that no matter which version of firmware we restore to it will still work?

Will apple be able to patch the vulnerability with firmware updates or will they only be able to protect it in a new release of the iphone from the factory? Meaning that "we" have won the battle with current models?

hope that makes sense...

since it's in the bootloader, you have control of what gets loaded and unloaded on the iPhone, so as long as you mod f/w files in the future to not replace the bootloader you shouldn't have to worry about things in the future; at least that is my understanding

**atorres062** · 03-08-2008, 11:38 AM

I never heard of iPwn, is this another way of jailbreaking? can someone explain?

**LeathaFace** · 03-08-2008, 12:06 PM

Just when u thought they couldnt get any better

**luistohe123** · 03-08-2008, 12:15 PM

So this means that for example:
You can make your own prejailbreaked, preunlocked, firmware
and you can add your contacts, notes, and stuff like that to the firmware file?
so no backingup is actually needed if you have everything on the firmware file,right?
Is this gonna be posible?

**Maximus54** · 03-08-2008, 12:27 PM

I know this is a very noob question, but I have only jailbreaked my iPhone using Zibri's method. So is iPwn not jailbreaking but rather modifying the bootloader? Urgh, I'm confused. What could iPwn mean or do for our iPhones? What type of hacking could this provide? And how does this compare to Ziphone? Would we be able to continue to have unofficial third party apps and use iPhone Software V.2.0. Please explain. Thanks guys.

Maximus54

**luistohe123** · 03-08-2008, 12:33 PM

Maximus54
Read the first post....It's very clear
This Pwn thing means you can modify the firmware files to be preunlocked, prejailbroken, to not update the bootloader or baseband and many other stuff....
So you can make a customized firmware ....

**julianqm2** · 03-08-2008, 01:22 PM

be sides pre unlocked, jailbroken.. and that stuff. what is possible now to mod that wasnt before? and i know its easier good job to the devs but just wondering if anything new modding wise is available now

**likwidfuzion** · 03-08-2008, 01:37 PM

The most valuable thing I see out of this Pwnage method is the fact that I can possibly create an .ipsw ghost image of my iPhone. That way when I need to restore, I don't have to reinstall or sync my entire iTunes backup again. That would be a HUGE time saver.

**llol_slim** · 03-08-2008, 02:04 PM

Well i think the major point of this (correct me if I'm wrong) is that so far apple havent managed / dont know about it so it will be working on later releases of firmware...

**greatstuff451** · 03-08-2008, 02:14 PM

Can someone please help me?
Can I do a restore to 1.1.4 from itunes if I am running 1.1.1 Jailbroken and then use ziphone. Will everything work out or do I have to start somewhere else. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

**secretmrx** · 03-08-2008, 02:38 PM

i hope the do release it now and not wait until june... JUNE IS SO FAR AWAY :'(

anyway apple cant patch this as it is an exploit in bootloaders that they are using to make the iphone allow unsigned code. Just like ipsf hasnt been patched out, thats because the bootloader was the one exploited. anysim can be fixed as its just patching out the sim checks on baseband level, and the baseband is almost always updated.

So from my understanding, this CANT BE FIXED BY APPLE as it is impossible to do so. and if this cant be fixed, why not release it now

**King Chronic** · 03-08-2008, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by iBwizzle

What kind of effect will this have on restorin' the contacts, history, text, photos, etc. from backup?

It'll work fine, don't worry.

**iNfEk** · 03-08-2008, 04:18 PM

sweet!

just dying to try this... this won't mess with my legit AT&T service though right?

**greatstuff451** · 03-08-2008, 04:48 PM

Can someone please help me?
Can I do a restore to 1.1.4 from itunes if I am running 1.1.1 Jailbroken and then use ziphone. Will everything work out or do I have to start somewhere else. Can I use the newest version of itunes or should I use an older version? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance

**tiger1981** · 03-08-2008, 04:50 PM

Sick! I can't wait!

**KelvinalF** · 03-08-2008, 05:03 PM

cant wait!!!

**greatstuff451** · 03-08-2008, 05:06 PM

Can someone please help me?
Can I do a restore to 1.1.4 from itunes if I am running 1.1.1 Jailbroken and then use ziphone. Will everything work out or do I have to start somewhere else. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

**Eurisko** · 03-08-2008, 05:13 PM

Whose going to make these custom .ipsw files? Will a tool be made so we can do it ourselves or do we have to rely on the Dev Team to also do that for us?

**madrich** · 03-08-2008, 05:42 PM

Believe me, you'll be glad you went to 1.1.3!

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