[ryan christopher]

i think this is a great step for iphone but being a tmobile customer i hope that the devs can find a work around so i can use the new features as well. if all else fails i could switch over to AT&T

[systdow666]

drp can also stand for digital rights protection alos any chance of anybody getting ahold of the 1.2.0 or 2.0.0 beta or do we really have to wait if its out there developers share

[Chantecleer]

i ordered the 2.0 thing from apple.com and if i get it i will be glad to share it with everyone on here

[jatatla]

Hey guys""""""""To MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE,Its a gr8 news for all the iphone LOVERS,This way we know we are heading forward........I know,there wll b some breaks,gaps,hurdles.........but thats nt new......it has been happening b4 with all the upgrades,but we should,nt b scared of the FEW negatives,rather we should b happy with what we r enjoying right now & wll keep.......... in future too......
Thankx

[kissmyaxe]

I'm not sure if I'm quite understanding this right, but I know programs like Apollo and iSolitaire do run in the background, at least to some extent. I think the one-application-at-a-time thing is referring to what you can actually visibly run at once, i.e. we won't be able to swipe between apps. Am I terribly far off in saying that?

[Onura]

I must be honest, and i find apple's paradoxal aproach always funny. They release an SDK and one firmware beta for tests. Its almost like saying "people here is the lock, and here are the tools! Get it open!". I think with native iphone program language it will even easier to unlock and jailbreak an iphone. I sometimes get myself thinking, it just feels like apple always leaves some doors open. All firmwares were breakble. Except 1.1.2. And as i recall it was released after att complained about the diference between bought and activated iphones. I think deep inside El Jobso suports our cause.

[croix]

This may be a dumb question & it may be too early BUT...
For someone with AT&T would there be any benefits to jailbreaking 2.0?
Given things like customize will eventually be able to work with the new coding?
Or do you suspect that file altering apps like customize and summerboard or even file browsing apps wont fly with the AppStore?

[jcrod73]

Well right now all I'm glad about is that they are finally getting it to work with exchange and activesync...

I just really don't understand these companies that create this great device and have the ability to actually fulfill a user's expectations but don’t...If they did it right in the first place we wouldn't have to hack anything and they would have tripled their sales when it first came out...like accessing LEAP wireless networks, MMS, exchange email, activesync, FLASH, etc...

I LOVE the iPhone but the horror to keep it the way I want is such a hassle...With that, PRAISE TO ALL THE DEVs…without any of you I would just have a plain boring iPhone…

APPLE really needs to loosen their sphincter A LOT more than they have…I think I’ve ranted enough on my first post…sorry…

[Happy Noodle Boy]

Originally Posted by croix

This may be a dumb question & it may be too early BUT...
For someone with AT&T would there be any benefits to jailbreaking 2.0?
Given things like customize will eventually be able to work with the new coding?
Or do you suspect that file altering apps like customize and summerboard or even file browsing apps wont fly with the AppStore?

You're going to have to jailbreak to do that. 3rd-party apps are limited to their own "folder". In other words, they can't access any information from any other app, such as the sprinboard. The only exceptions are things like data from EDGE/Wifi and pictures from the camera.

Also, regarding IM software... given how they've set up current 3rd-party applications, I don't think we'll be seeing a true IM app like the one everyone dreams of. Since apps close when not used or switched to something else, you'd be having the same issue as webapps, forcing you to reconnect every time. Now I think it's the sidekick or flip (someone feel free to correct me on this one) that has a pretty nice solution to this problem. What they do is have an IM service running elsewhere on their servers. When you log in your phone you're actually logging in to their servers, which then connects to the AIM or whatever. So to everyone else you remain online and never disconnect until you choose to. Your phone then can periodically ping the server to check if you have any new messages. Honestly I don't see something like this happening and I doubt the AIM app we saw works like this, but it would be awesome to have it.

[iBwizzle]

iWill donate a $1000 dollars to a developer who creates an 3rd-Party iPhone native iM program smiliar to the SideKick or better. Meanin' that iT has AOL, Yahoo, and MSN messagin' and iS able to run In the background. iHave both the Helio Ocean and iPhone only because one can do what the other can't. Ugh Apple...iPray to God the second generation iPhone has everythin' we be cravin' for. (i.e. GPS, Flash, MMS, Copy/Paste, iM, Video record, etc.)

[Reako]

Relax iBizzle. With the SDK out, its only opening doors for options. Just have patience to see what is implemented now...

Reako

[Happy Noodle Boy]

Originally Posted by iBwizzle

iWill donate a $1000 dollars to a developer who creates an 3rd-Party iPhone native iM program smiliar to the SideKick or better. Meanin' that iT has AOL, Yahoo, and MSN messagin' and iS able to run In the background. iHave both the Helio Ocean and iPhone only because one can do what the other can't. Ugh Apple...iPray to God the second generation iPhone has everythin' we be cravin' for. (i.e. GPS, Flash, MMS, Copy/Paste, iM, Video record, etc.)

Not sure if you missed it in my previous post, but what you want is impossible given how the sidekick IM works unless someone comes not only with a 3-rd party app, but also with the service to run the way you want it to. It's going to take more than just a developer to get a true IM app.

[croix]

Originally Posted by Happy Noodle Boy

Also, regarding IM software... given how they've set up current 3rd-party applications, I don't think we'll be seeing a true IM app like the one everyone dreams of. Since apps close when not used or switched to something else, you'd be having the same issue as webapps, forcing you to reconnect every time. Now I think it's the sidekick or flip (someone feel free to correct me on this one) that has a pretty nice solution to this problem. What they do is have an IM service running elsewhere on their servers. When you log in your phone you're actually logging in to their servers, which then connects to the AIM or whatever. So to everyone else you remain online and never disconnect until you choose to. Your phone then can periodically ping the server to check if you have any new messages. Honestly I don't see something like this happening and I doubt the AIM app we saw works like this, but it would be awesome to have it.

Well with Chat from Installer you can still receive IM's even if you have returned to the home screen or another app as long as you don't select sign off from the chat screen

[pingwhen]

well we will see if it is 2.0, i mean the jobs siad it was, so its ture, anything he says is true, because he well never says anything ha. but anyways, i see alot coming from this sdk, i mean their will be great games and programs. nothing we have seen before, but the jailbreaking will survive and unlocking will never ever go away. but we will see. they gave developers 3 months to make amazing programs to make the appstore look perfect when it is avaiable. but there will be no summerboard, there will be no nes, no snes, no customize, no extended preferences. the list could go on for almost ever :-/. to bad :-/.

[ajl917]

I was just thinking, if someone implements the program Insomnia into a bug free IM app, and that would probably work...