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Thread: Mobile Flash? Not good Enough, says Steve

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    When I previously contacted Adobe regarding no Flash support on the iPhone I was told that the company was willing to port Flash to the iPhone but that they were waiting on Apple to provide them with the SDK. Now it seems Apple wants to continue to control what applications their customers install on the iPhone even after they release the SDK to developers, thus locking out Adobe. There are several film studio sites that I visit that use Flash extensively to demo their work. While not every website developer uses Flash there are a lot that do. Steve Jobs should take his head out of the sand and look around at what not only his customers have been asking for since the iPhone was released but also what other all-in-one smartphone competitors are offering consumers.


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    There's (a rumor) theory about the flash issue (and unfortunately a link to pdf viewing by MobileSafari, which is ridiculously basic at the moment):

    Is Steve Jobs lying about Flash not working on iPhone?

    RUMOR ALERT — I have not substantiated this with anyone at either Adobe or Apple, so might turn out to be totally false:

    Today I got a note from someone I know who works closely with Adobe and Apple. He saw my “Apple stabs Adobe in the Back” post and wanted to give me some details about what’s going on between Adobe and Apple. He says that he’s seen Flash running on an iPhone in a lab and that it’s been running for quite a while and that it’s not a technical issue that caused Steve Jobs to go public about not putting Adobe’s Flash on the iPhone. He wrote “Geez - my Chumby with half the CPU horsepower can run Flash8/AS2.”

    So, what’s the reason, according to my source?

    Adobe is playing hardball with Apple over their PDF renderer. “Adobe wants Apple to use the Adobe PDF renderer.” His thesis? Steve Jobs is playing hard to get to get Adobe to give up this demand.


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    Not sure what this rumor amounts to, if they're lying, they're lying. It doesn't change the fact that there's going to be no Flash for the iPhone until Steve says so.

    And the PDF thing? I don't buy it. Apple's Preview app does a much better and faster job of reading PDF's than Adobe's own reader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurisko View Post
    And the PDF thing? I don't buy it. Apple's Preview app does a much better and faster job of reading PDF's than Adobe's own reader.
    No. It doesn't open big PDFs (i.e. on MobileSafari >9~10 mb), you can't jump from page 1 to page XYZ (extremely annoying on files with several hundred pages = nearly unreadable) and you can't search inside. Taking into account the iPhones capabilities Apple has done a very bad job here (up to now).

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    Quote Originally Posted by benne View Post
    No. It doesn't open big PDFs (i.e. on MobileSafari >9~10 mb), you can't jump from page 1 to page XYZ (extremely annoying on files with several hundred pages = nearly unreadable) and you can't search inside. Taking into account the iPhones capabilities Apple has done a very bad job here (up to now).
    I'm not sure what you're talking about, but its clearly not in reference to my post. OSX's Preview program is both faster and has less overhead than Adobe's Reader. Why would Adobe think Apple would feel compelled to use their PDF renderer for the iPhone? Adobe playing hardball with Apple? Please.
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    I agree with you on Apple Preview, but if you look on the implementation on the iPhone the charms are extremely limited. Looks like Apple didn't care about it. The standard functions which make PDFs useable are missing. As long as they are to lazy to do it: Adobe's Mobile PDF Reader would fill the gap.
    Last edited by benne; 03-08-2008 at 03:35 PM.

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    I dont understand how the iPhone cannot handle flash. Look at all of those other phones out there, are you telling me the treo is stronger than the iphone? Have you seen the graphic capabilities of the phone? It is a freaking beast of a phone, and he is BSing saying that it cant support flash??

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    I hate Steve Jobs. Hopefully he gets replaced soon.

    As far as iPhone being powerful, I call BS, considering how you can only run one app at a time, and Safari can barely handle 2-3 sites open at once.

    Also, there are plenty of uses for Flash, but of course, the typical Apple fanboi reply to any feature missing on the iPhone but available on another device is going to be "but why would you even need that?". LOL!

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