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02-10-2009, 04:45 PM #21
Seems like to me, both companies are willing to take certain setbacks, if it means being ahead of Microsoft.
ever watch Survivor?
You become allies with the strong people in the beginning,
but must get rid of them at some point before the end. =D
02-10-2009, 04:55 PM #22Multi-Touch
I think the agreement is probably just for the "Multi-Touch" gestures, although I could be wrong. I can't even recall any touch screen cell phone that required just your finger to use. Most required a stylus and many still did until the iPhone.
It's business and neither is in it to lose money or give the competitors any advantage. And just like in cycling it takes teamwork (even if you're not teammates) to get to the top of the mountain.
"Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer."
02-10-2009, 08:49 PM #23
Is Apple trying to be the top of multi-touch devices? Google shouldn't have said okay.Asking for help is different from being stupid. Fanboys can rot in @#$%!
02-10-2009, 09:01 PM #24Can we say PWNED!?!?
WOW I usually don't post much on here but DANG! That is some serious PWNership!
Apple+Google = BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS!
02-11-2009, 01:21 AM #25
Monopoly isn't great, even if it's Apple, even if it's Google, even if it's Microsoft, because if nobody is there to defy Apple, they won't add funtionnalities (hello ? copy paste, multitasking with appstore ?) because people will buy their products just for some features they've patented (headphone remote via jack ... I would love this on other phones !) while de device will still miss these features.
Highest standards ? No, Apple's software quality is going down, face it. MobileMe, iPhone OS 2.0 (not stable at all), Leopard 10.5.0, that wasn't really high quality compared to what we were used to. What you said for Microsoft that doesn't have to make better quality products just applies for the iPhone, thanks to the armada of patents.
By the way, Microsoft is willing to make their OS better. Not having to ? Really ? They why do they feel the need to release Seven quickly ? Because nobody buys Vista in the entreprises.
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02-11-2009, 02:24 AM #26
I seriously laughed almost to the point of tears reading your remarks. A+ for amusement!
On a side note... if it is deemed a legal monopoly it will be dealt with... I have no doubt of that. Tiny companies like psystar are already taking Apple on for their bullsh*t EULA's and winning. If they are a wonderful company making wonderful products they have no reason to fear other companies by locking them out. Apple's legal tactics are coming to light more and more. They will get burned sooner or later.
Also, a large reason MS has such a large market share is because they allow their OS to be installed on any system the user desires. Apple sees that people want this of their own OS and still stops them...
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02-11-2009, 05:11 AM #27
With the second iPhone release we see a different set of problems more specific to the build quality of the phone itself: cracking backplastic, dust getting under the screen, the yellow screen issue (resolved), etc...
I don't know if I'm the only one, but in my opinion, the iPhone 3G was worse in terms of build quality than the 2.5G, and it's probably because Apple saw their success with the first iPhone and tried to increase profits with the second one by cutting manufacturing costs.
If the patent were in MS hands, yes I'd be pouting too, but not when its in Apple's hands. So you can say no, sorry, no all you want, its the Windows user in you saying it. You're used to being spoon fed crap so you think that's all other companies can offer you as well. Well, its not.
An economic assumption of a monopoly is that there will be lack of innovation within the business (e.g. they will start to spoonfeed crap). In an economic sense, If Apple gain a monopoly you'll see less innovation (and more crap) from Apple. You say that Apple already have a monopoly, and that they already have the highest standards, but looking at previous products by Apple, they just don't go together.
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02-11-2009, 08:10 AM #28
Can we drop the silly monopoly talk? It's very obvious what Apple would do with one. I'm going to guess they'll begin small. Assuming they own the orange and red properties (controlling free parking, obviously) they'll begin with 2 houses this year to create a steady income. Microsoft already had Boardwalk and Park Plaza with hotels, but that's only 2 properties and easy to avoid and after their little rundown with a go straight to jail spot, they had to take it down to a couple of houses too.
So right now all we can do is wait and hope Apple doesn't roll 3 doubles in a row.
02-11-2009, 08:50 AM #29
Go straight to Jail, do not pass go, do not collect £200
That was awful...
He who asks a question looks foolish for 5 minutes. He who doesn't ask a question remains foolish forever.
02-12-2009, 01:04 AM #30
well we all know by now that Apple is run by a bunch of power hungry nazis who dont seem to care much about the consumer.The only reason our iPhone is the king of multi-touch is because of situations just like this 1.Apple confronts the company prior to the phone being released or hell even mass-produced.
02-12-2009, 01:08 AM #31
Apple hold a patent - do you think they should not defend it?
Maybe then they could lose money and go bankrupt - is that what you want?
They maybe 'power hungry' which is why they are still in business, but nazis? I haven't noticed too many swastikas on their productsHe who asks a question looks foolish for 5 minutes. He who doesn't ask a question remains foolish forever.
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02-12-2009, 01:13 AM #32
02-12-2009, 01:16 AM #33
02-12-2009, 06:15 AM #34
Is it surprising every negative rebuttal to my comments come from Windows users... not to me. Yes, I'm an Apple "fanboy" if you like applying immature labels to things.
If you feel Apple is failing in so many aspects, why are you using Apple products? Get rid of them and stop whining. I know MS is substandard and therefore I don't use anything that MS makes. At least I stick stick to my principles.
Laugh all you want, it's falling on deaf ears.
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02-12-2009, 07:25 AM #35
One company stopping others using technology is not normally good for consumers (ie us, as opposed to fanboys who will take whatever is given to them).
The iPhone is IMHO the best smartphone on the market bay far - but it has its faults, competition means choice which makes people strive to be better.
JMHOHe who asks a question looks foolish for 5 minutes. He who doesn't ask a question remains foolish forever.
02-12-2009, 07:31 AM #36
02-12-2009, 09:05 AM #37
02-12-2009, 09:26 AM #38
And you weren't quoting me, you were implying that I, and presumably anyone else, who "takes whatever is given to them" is a fanboy. Believe it or not, most people don't complain about the products they use, they simply move on to a better product.
These people remind me of many Rogers customers who whine and complain about the horrible service they get, yet the monthly payments keep coming in. A definite Type B personality.Get "iPod & iTunes for Dummies", it'll change your life.
02-12-2009, 11:04 AM #39
03-29-2009, 04:26 AM #40
Back to the original subject...
Apples claims might not be as wartertight as we thought...
Who owns Multi-touch patents?