[alias_neo]

I'v not really been following this whole thing because frankly I don't care. I own an iPhone cause it seemed like a god idea, and so far it's certainly kept me entertained although not as practical as i'd have liked. The point I want to make here is that having never previously bought an apple product, infact i have actively avoided it, I got an iphone. Now I know that MS makes WinMo for many devices, but they dont make a device as such.

Where I think Apple wins here is that they have experience in developing hardware, and the software to work perfectly with it. Microsoft have shown with the Xbox for example that hardware isnt their thing. The zoon didnt so much as get a look in from me, I can't see a Zoon phone getting it either. MS doesnt have the "cult following" that Apple does except when it comes to the Xbox360, its only thaose sort of people that are going to go buy one on hype as happens with Apple products, which is a small number in comparison.

Unless this Zoon phone was to offer someting revolutionary, and lets be honest, the iphone has nothing technologically revolutionary about it except the touch screen interface and UI, then this Zoon phone wont win many people on specs either.

WinMo really isnt anything special, and a MS specific hardware running it will never be special.

Considering the technology that is coming, and with new kid on the block Android, i think its a waste of time for MS to try.

Don't get me wrong, I am as anti Apple as can be, but on this one I think that if you want a phone thats a phone, the iphone does it nicely. If you want a real powerhouse of a phone, as i said all along, go Nokia, or see what Android will offer.

Ultimately, my point here, that should please the Apple fans, is that from a Windows user, and non Apple fan, I would still call this 1-0 to Apple. It's not often you see a hater admit you're right.

[hoits2000]

wow, who cares?

[VBLUE42]

Originally Posted by SmoothiPhone

Honestly, I don't believe the iPhone didn't become a big hit due to Apple's side of things. If it weren't for the developers and hackers that unlocked the 2G and 3G phones then a great percentage of users would be lost. Thats how I honestly feel.

Bulls*it, people like us that hack our iphones are a very small percentage that do that. Most iphone owners are not even aware or are afraid of this process. Apple now has the number one smart phone in sales and I would say 90 percent are unhacked. And comments like this that Balmer made a year ago is exactly why they still produce piece of sh*t products, Because they dont get it and they never have. It is nice to hear though that he finally knows he cant compete with Apple on something. Also consider this, Apple surpasses the computer industry in growth every year with Macs sold. That means more and more people are getting sick and tired of Microsoft crap and just want a system that works like it should.

[confucious]

Having used WM phones for the past few years it took the 3G iPhone and App Store to persuade me to try an iPhone. Now I love it.

Hacking came later.

Apart from the minor niggles we all no about the only thing where WM devices beat the iPhone is the availability of SatNav - if CoPilot or TomTom (or any of the others) release their software for the iPhone I will be a very happy bunny.

[ultimatexpka]

Originally Posted by SmoothiPhone

Honestly, I don't believe the iPhone didn't become a big hit due to Apple's side of things. If it weren't for the developers and hackers that unlocked the 2G and 3G phones then a great percentage of users would be lost. Thats how I honestly feel.

This guy speaks the truth, The only reason i bought an iphone is because I wanted an ipod and an iphone and that I heard groups being created to hack the iphone like they hacked the ipod, and sticking in linux... Im glad i got this jailbroken, otherwise I would of been stuck with the blackberry storm.

I think the iphone is the only advanced phone that has been jailbroken (hacked)

so much homebrew, 3rd party apps and ect.

Edit: this video has been released a long time ago... -.-, just to show his embarassment, w0w lol

[confucious]

There's far more hacking for WM devices. most people don't even bother jailbreaking their iPhone.

[calingasan]

Apple this, Microsoft that... F**kin annoying.

[confucious]

This is an Apple site - what do you expect?

[fletch33]

Originally Posted by ultimatexpka

This guy speaks the truth, The only reason i bought an iphone is because I wanted an ipod and an iphone and that I heard groups being created to hack the iphone like they hacked the ipod, and sticking in linux... Im glad i got this jailbroken, otherwise I would of been stuck with the blackberry storm.

I think the iphone is the only advanced phone that has been jailbroken (hacked)

so much homebrew, 3rd party apps and ect.

this is a PERFECT example of what the iPhone has done. it has brought more people out of the phone market and into the smart/pda phone market and somehow led them to believe that the iPhone is revolutionary and that nothing like this has ever been done before.

no offense to you ultimaexpka but it is statements like " I think the iphone is the only advanced phone that has been jailbroken (hacked) so much homebrew, 3rd party apps and ect." that defines all the people on here that do no research and have no knowledge of where pda/smart phones were before the glorious iPhone came along.

for more than 5 years or more preceding the iPhone all my phones (WM) had NES, Homebrew, SNES, web browser, google shortcut icon, seriously hundreds of apps and WM still does.

they also had a few more things that i had almost a decade ago and that we have yet to see on the iPhone like copy and paste, and things that came only a few years ago like slingplayer.

the iPhone is a great phone but it has brought so many new people into this market and easily led them to believe that all these features are new and this thing is like nothing the world has ever seen.

i really like my iPhone and they did make some things better like the touchscreen and making it easy to add apps so the average user could make the switch, and its an iPod, and a few more things but they didnt re-invent the wheel.

people should try and educate themselves just a little bit before just throwing out random unsupported claims.


sorry about that but as much as i like my Iphone this "nothing has ever been like this" remarks make me do the above

[calingasan]

Originally Posted by fletch33

this is a PERFECT example of what the iPhone has done. it has brought more people out of the phone market and into the smart/pda phone market and somehow led them to believe that the iPhone is revolutionary and that nothing like this has ever been done before.

no offense to you ultimaexpka but it is statements like " I think the iphone is the only advanced phone that has been jailbroken (hacked) so much homebrew, 3rd party apps and ect." that defines all the people on here that do no research and have no knowledge of where pda/smart phones were before the glorious iPhone came along.

for more than 5 years or more preceding the iPhone all my phones (WM) had NES, Homebrew, SNES, web browser, google shortcut icon, seriously hundreds of apps and WM still does.

they also had a few more things that i had almost a decade ago and that we have yet to see on the iPhone like copy and paste, and things that came only a few years ago like slingplayer.

the iPhone is a great phone but it has brought so many new people into this market and easily led them to believe that all these features are new and this thing is like nothing the world has ever seen.

i really like my iPhone and they did make some things better like the touchscreen and making it easy to add apps so the average user could make the switch, and its an iPod, and a few more things but they didnt re-invent the wheel.

people should try and educate themselves just a little bit before just throwing out random unsupported claims.


sorry about that but as much as i like my Iphone this "nothing has ever been like this" remarks make me do the above

Lol, brings back old symbian memories from my good old Motorola A1000. I was the only one who had one on my class.

[confucious]

Originally Posted by calingasan

Lol, brings back old symbian memories from my good old Motorola A1000. I was the only one who had one on my class.

I had the A825, the A925 and the A1000 - God they were awful!

Windows Mobile has been my choice for the past few years (apart from the odd foray into the World of Symbian)

The iPhone is less flexible than WM but the ease of use makes it my phone of choice - but to say it is the first phone that can be hacked is stretching the truth somewhat...

[BenzoHartt]

so this is where the awkward moment of silence come in...

(phone rings)
Ballmer: I have to take this... (and brings out an iphone)
Steve: cough's and smiles

[confucious]

Lol!

[smirkis]

did u really say microsoft doesnt know how to make hardware? how the heck did they make a pc, that runs widows, in the first place.

i don't see apple with a gaming device, so how can u compare apple with a xbox... i can't compare my iphone to my xbox, its in a different league.

the iphone only appealed me cuz i could unlock it, n do my own thingg thanks to the developers/iphone dev team. yah apple made the device, but i never woulda bought it if it wasn't for the other people. they did what micrsoft allows, pretty open developing. apple, does not. the idea of free open source appealed me.

get over the windows vs apple. u guys are halarious.

[confucious]

Errr...

Microsoft have never made a PC - only the software to run on it.