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There's far more hacking for WM devices. most people don't even bother jailbreaking their iPhone....
01-13-2009, 02:03 AM #21
There's far more hacking for WM devices. most people don't even bother jailbreaking their iPhone.He who asks a question looks foolish for 5 minutes. He who doesn't ask a question remains foolish forever.
01-13-2009, 02:27 AM #22
Apple this, Microsoft that... F**kin annoying.
01-13-2009, 02:29 AM #23
This is an Apple site - what do you expect?He who asks a question looks foolish for 5 minutes. He who doesn't ask a question remains foolish forever.
01-13-2009, 06:11 AM #24
no offense to you ultimaexpka but it is statements like " I think the iphone is the only advanced phone that has been jailbroken (hacked) so much homebrew, 3rd party apps and ect." that defines all the people on here that do no research and have no knowledge of where pda/smart phones were before the glorious iPhone came along.
for more than 5 years or more preceding the iPhone all my phones (WM) had NES, Homebrew, SNES, web browser, google shortcut icon, seriously hundreds of apps and WM still does.
they also had a few more things that i had almost a decade ago and that we have yet to see on the iPhone like copy and paste, and things that came only a few years ago like slingplayer.
the iPhone is a great phone but it has brought so many new people into this market and easily led them to believe that all these features are new and this thing is like nothing the world has ever seen.
i really like my iPhone and they did make some things better like the touchscreen and making it easy to add apps so the average user could make the switch, and its an iPod, and a few more things but they didnt re-invent the wheel.
people should try and educate themselves just a little bit before just throwing out random unsupported claims.
sorry about that but as much as i like my Iphone this "nothing has ever been like this" remarks make me do the above"i believe louisiana is the pelican state"
01-13-2009, 06:26 AM #25
01-13-2009, 07:29 AM #26
Windows Mobile has been my choice for the past few years (apart from the odd foray into the World of Symbian)
The iPhone is less flexible than WM but the ease of use makes it my phone of choice - but to say it is the first phone that can be hacked is stretching the truth somewhat...
He who asks a question looks foolish for 5 minutes. He who doesn't ask a question remains foolish forever.
01-13-2009, 08:01 AM #27
so this is where the awkward moment of silence come in...
Ballmer: I have to take this... (and brings out an iphone)
Steve: cough's and smiles
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01-13-2009, 08:27 AM #28
01-13-2009, 09:29 AM #29
did u really say microsoft doesnt know how to make hardware? how the heck did they make a pc, that runs widows, in the first place.
i don't see apple with a gaming device, so how can u compare apple with a xbox... i can't compare my iphone to my xbox, its in a different league.
the iphone only appealed me cuz i could unlock it, n do my own thingg thanks to the developers/iphone dev team. yah apple made the device, but i never woulda bought it if it wasn't for the other people. they did what micrsoft allows, pretty open developing. apple, does not. the idea of free open source appealed me.
get over the windows vs apple. u guys are halarious.1.1.1>1.1.2>1.1.4>2.0>2.1>2.2>3.1>3.1.2 blackra1n'd
waitin on my white iphone 4
01-13-2009, 09:32 AM #30
Microsoft have never made a PC - only the software to run on it.
01-13-2009, 01:02 PM #31
I once prayed to God for an iPhone, but quickly found out He didn't work that way...so I stole an iPhone and prayed for His forgiveness.
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01-13-2009, 02:04 PM #32
People get very protective of what they have . There are as many people on Microsoft sites slanging off Apple and I don't think a bit of light hearted ribbing does any harm.
Just so long as you don't take it to seriously
01-13-2009, 11:20 PM #33
01-13-2009, 11:42 PM #34
Microsoft has proven with the XBOX that they really can't make good hardware and should stick to software which they clearly are doing something right with to be so successful.
I'm most certainly not an Apple fan as I have said, anti apple if anything. We're not comparing the xbox to the iphone, we're comparing the overall product idea.
Microsoft gives you the words, but you need to be able to speak. Apple, is kinda like your mum and dad, they give you the "hardware" and they teach you how that hardware should speak. Assuming they got it right, if you're a white *** english kid like me, you probably speak english, and the whole picture fits.
Pardon the analogy, but i didn't want to compare Apple to god and say he makes everything, hardware and software, we'd have a field day with that one!
As much as I hate Apple for the way they do business, atleast you know that the hardware and software are progressing together, and they will always work how they should because theyre being made by one and the same.
It gives them more time to focus on fixing any problems they have (like the fact that iphones fall apart) or any bugs in their software.
Microsoft however has had software design as their main focus for the longest time. Making all the software they have to, while replacing the hundreds of thousands of faulty Xbox360s because of crappy design clearly takes a chunk of their time, money and effort.
That being said, we know that Sony paid for the R&D for half the technology that is used in xbox360s processor, so they should have been able to get the rest of it right.
I'm not saying Apple is better or Microsoft is better but Microsoft have always made software, their name kind of gives that away. Apple has always made software AND hardware, and for Apple they have progressed as one since the beginning (as far as i know).
It's a difficult time to enter the race from the half way mark and being no where near up to speed.
This is why I personally don't see any manufacturer (like Apple) now coming out with a new console this late on in the game and having any success. Look what happened to SEGA, it's really just going to be the major 3, unless someone can come out with so innovative, but can cover all the bases and by pure luck get it right first time.
Sony Playstation make games consoles
Nintendo makes games consoles
Nokia makes mobile phones
Ford makes vehicles
Microsoft makes software
Apple makes....?? PCs?
If anything Apple would be compared to the likes of Sony and Nokia than Microsoft, they each make the hardware and OS that runs that hardware.
Microsoft has always been the "teacher" that will teach you english because your mum and dad didn't supply it with the hardware. Doesn't make the teacher any good at making babiesNeO
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06-20-2009, 01:26 PM #35
06-20-2009, 03:45 PM #36
microsoft=garbage waste of time
i started on microsft and still have friends (well 1 friend that uses an iphone) who swear by vista!
i got converted when the iphone came out
so i went out bought a macbook and a iphone same day and have never looked back
i cant even use a pc. I have to bring my mac everywhere cause i refuse to use a pc-it just drives me crazy for some reason
when i got my mac i came home and tossed my pc out of my window into an alley from the sixth floor-it felt sooooo good!!!! and that goes with the 3 other towers i tossed in the past 3 years
06-20-2009, 03:47 PM #37
You bought an iPhone so then bought a Mac? Strange person.
06-20-2009, 07:33 PM #38